I was right there with you lol
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Thatās very likely.
Whatever you think of Forbes as a player, you have to admire his compassion and actions at the end of the Chicago game last Sunday.
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he is gen z in name only. different moral code, different family values, different work ethic. @HSVLion is a big-time winner of a human being.
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Inherited Jones and then extended him after overachieving that season. They have no one to blame, but themselves on that one.
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While I canāt say this for certain, I donāt think Banks would have been destined for the same outcome had he been drafted by Detroit. The environment you go into molds you into who you are going to be, especially when you are young. You have to have an environment in place that sets expectations of what it will take to play for this team, or to work for a particular organization. I guess it would be easier to sum it up by saying culture.
Jameson Williams came to Detroit and had this rep as a lazy player, but he doesnāt have that rep today. The culture in Detroit was perfect for Williams coming in as a young athlete with no idea how to be a pro. Had Williams gone to a different team with a terrible culture heād probably be out of the league. Heās still growing. A good culture is so vital to success in sports and in the work place.
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This was also DEFINITELY the rep for Millenials. Lazy, entitled, participation trophies, etc.
But, itās pretty much the rep for every generation for a while. And it goes back in time, and across countries. A few news clippings from the past:
America, 1993, about Gen X:
āWhat really distinguishes this generation from those before it is that itās the first generation in American history to live so well and complain so bitterly about it.ā
America, 1984, about Boomers:
āA few [35-year-old friends] just now are leaving their parentsā nest. Many friends are getting married or having a baby for the first time. They arenāt switching occupations, because they have finally landed a āmeaningfulā career ā perhaps after a decade of hopscotching jobs in search of an identity. Theyāre doing the kinds of things our society used to expect from 25-year-olds.ā
England, 1951:
āMany [young people] were so pampered nowadays that they had forgotten that there was such a thing as walking, and they made automatically for the busesā¦ unless they did something, the future for walking was very poor indeed.ā
America, 1950 about what would come to be known as "The Greatest Generation:
āItās an irony, but so many of us are a cautious, nervous, conservative crew that some of the elders who five years ago feared that we might come trooping home full of foreign radical ideas are now afraid that the opposite might be too true, and that we could be lacking some of the old American gambling spirit and enterprise.ā
England, 1938:
āParents themselves were often the cause of many difficulties. They frequently failed in their obvious duty to teach self-control and discipline to their own children.ā
Ireland, 1925:
āWe defy anyone who goes about with his eyes open to deny that there is, as never before, an attitude on the part of young folk which is best described as grossly thoughtless, rude, and utterly selfish.ā
France, 1771:
āWhither are the manly vigour and athletic appearance of our forefathers flown? Can these be their legitimate heirs? Surely, no; a race of effeminate, self-admiring, emaciated fribbles can never have descended in a direct line from the heroes of Potiers and Agincourtā¦ā
Aristotle - ~350ish BC, Greece:
āThey think they know everything, and are always quite sure about it.ā
ā[Young people] are high-minded because they have not yet been humbled by life, nor have they experienced the force of circumstances.ā
That is just a tiny smattering; honestly if I took more time I could probably find better examples from old newspapers. I think some young people are always lazy and entitled, and always have been. I think others are hard working, smart, and pioneers, as they always have been.
So thereās my two cents, which is worth less than an nickel. And get off my lawn!
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Awesome reply man.
Yes, I agree with all of that.
However. There are two points I want to make notwithstanding.
The first is anecdotal. Iām 59. Early Gen X. As someone who expects and has experienced ageism over the last many years in favor of younger folks (Iām a self-employed copywriter), recently I have landed two good clients who explicitly told me they hired me because they canāt deal with the young workers anymore. Money talks, and many employers seem to have had it with the unreliability and general ADD of the younger generation.
Which leads me to the second point. Gen Z is the first generation to be raised with cell phones. They are, generally speaking, glued to them. And they have been raised by parents who are glued to them, in a sense they grew up having to compete with phones for their parentsā attention. This goes far beyond trying to talk to Dad while heās watching the evening news. This is addiction up and and down the age parameters and Gen Z is ground zero for it. They are more distracted and more depressed than any generation that went before them. Iām not trying to dump on them, itās a sad reality. There is a mental health crisis going on among many demographics, but Gen Z is bearing the brunt of all the tech change and itās social implications.
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I come here for the football and get so much more. I canāt add much to what @mojofilterx and @Jah26 wrote except a hearty yup.
Andā¦maybe the older generation is always going to be tarred as cranky old farts. I was visiting my brother in Nebraska and was talking with one of his 45-ish friend who said, āI canāt wait to get old so that I can go off on people for no reason at all.ā At 74, Iām mindful of that.
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Really good pointsā¦ I agree. I think that smartphones and social media represent a pretty fundamental change in human interaction/the lack of it. Iām not that old, but I have very āold guyā feelings on phones. The way they purposely āhackā your attention to extract time/attention/ad space/money is really something. I dislike how much they are tinkering with root level human interactions and feelings.
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