Do terrible GMs go to multiple superbowls and have 8-4 playoff records? No they do not. You are living in your own little world.
Without knowing the specifics around Arnold or Reed, I tend to agree. Shoulders and hammies are about as unpredictable as injuries can be.
Of course 49ers would. Even you don’t make a deal, thats what gms are supposed to do. Make the team better.
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They certainly did plan to trade him at all.
They don’t typically trade players.
However… a lot has changed since the draft.
Trey has made it clear he doesn’t want to be there after this season.
He is done with their lack of commitment, and the fact they reneged on a previous promise to pay him.
On top of that… Burrow is out another 2 months.
If they end up 3-6 at the bye week… and sill have another month before Burrow is possibly back… they would probably consider trading Trey to save $7.5 million in cash.
Mike Brown is cheap.
He could save money and improve the compensation they get for Trey leaving… which is almost certain at this point.
That would also make it easier to shut Burrow down for the rest of season if they have no playoff chances.
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We don’t have a 3rd round pick next year
We’ve traded our 3rd last few years for CD3, Arnold, Teslaa
“To that end, Dianna Russini of The Athletic expects the 49ers”
Wow so someone who reports expects them to reach out…
I am about to start writing my own articles that the den expects Lions to not be interested as it would get great clicks and ad revenue.
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Trey WILL be traded.
It makes zero sense for the Bengals to hang onto to him for the second half of the season. And neither side will want to stick around for another contract rodeo, can pretty much guarantee that.
The trouble for Lions fans here is that there will likely be multiple bidders and we haven’t seen Brad go all in yet.
He should think hard about it though. The Lions were good enough to win Lombardis the last two years and are this year as well.
But how many kicks at the can will we get? Window looks open for a while but there are no guarantees at all. I’d be in favour of throwing a 2nd at them. A 1st if we can extend him on a decent 3 year deal.
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He is saved by Shanahan, who is a great coach.
I shouldn’t have called him a terrible GM, just not a very good one. To whit:
- Traded 3 1st round picks for Trey Lance (considered the worst draft-day move of all-time)
- Trading away DeForest Buckner to draft Javon Kinlaw
- Spending valuable draft capital to take Kinlaw, Soloman Thomas, Drake Jackson (out of the league after two years), Jake Moody, Tyrion Davis-Price, Trey Sermon, Ambry Thomas, Lance, Jalen Hurd, Dante Pettis, Tarvarius Moore, Rueben Foster, and CJ Beathard.
- Letting DJ Reed go for peanuts.
- Made Jimmy G the highest-paid player in NFL history after 5 starts (after trading a 2nd rounder for him).
- Passed on Tom Brady in FA - who wanted to go home - to keep Jimmy G.
- Paid Aiyuk last-minute rather than move him to Pittsburgh for a 1st.
- Never truly fixing the OL.
Brad Holmes would get killed - killed - by you guys for a run like that.
His work on Day 3 deserves credit, which is why I shouldn’t have called him terrible. That said, my buddy who’s a diehard Niners fan says Adam Peters, the new Washington GM, was really behind the late-round success, so we’ll see if that keeps up.
In fact here’s what that friend had to say (I added the punctuation and fixed the spelling to make it readable): “He can’t evaluate. He can make top 5 picks and splash trades, but everything else was Peters. I KNOW Kittle and Jennings were Peters, and Purdy was Shanahan. I’m also pretty sure he has CTE from all those hits back in the day.
Shanahan is great, though. (His exact quote was: “Shanny f*cks tho”)
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I would definitely be willing to send them a 2nd round pick…
which will be a late 2nd rounder (270-370 points)
Migut even be able to get a 5th rounder back along with Trey (30-40 points)
Then… assuming Trey walks in UFA… Lions would possibly get a 3rd round comp pick back for 2027 (~ 100 points)
That would result in the Lions giving up ~ 140-240 points in draft capital value…. the same as pick #70-90 in the 3rd round.
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Oh yeah forgot about the comp value.
They will likely get a better offer than a late 2nd, though. I think. Who knows.
Someone will do better than that. Sweat was younger but a far worse player. So I think they’re looking at the equivalent of a higher 2nd. Someone will pair a 2 and a 3 or something like that.
The good news is with SF record and weak schedule they are neck and neck with us for #1 seed in NFL
Our 2nd is usually lower valued compared to other teams.
So all things being equal, Cincy could opt to trade us Trey over SF even for the same draft capital
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I don’t disagree with the common sense logic on this board around Trey. I just don’t think the Bengals will do it.
If, a big IF, they end up pulling the trigger and he goes to an NFC contender for a less than outrageous comp package, I will be super disappointed in Brad and join the we ‘should’ have gotten Trey bandwagon. I remain skeptical that they do anything though.
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I’d be surprised if it reaches that level…
That would be similar compensation to what the Rams paid to land Von Miller as a rental… but the Broncos ALSO paid off $9 million of Von’s salary so that the Rams could afford him under the cap.
The $9 million payoff was likely the reason a 3rd rounder was thrown in for that deal.
Agreed, and I don’t think it’s based on logic. I just think they have a way of doing things, and it’s their way or the highway. Which is why they pretty much always make guys play out their contracts. That or retire like Palmer did.
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I still want the Lions to do this. All it takes is another injury, which seems inevitable with this team, to collapse our defensive front. Hendrickson opposite Hutch for the stretch run, and rolling in a fresh AQM for either, would put the Lions firmly in Super Bowl contending territory, regardless of what injury comes next to this defense.
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Why?? It’s like free draft capital. A few less bums in the seats, maybe. Small price to pay for a nice pick.
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Hopefully Trey will openly request a trade.
He might as well… would have a chance to win a ring and have more primetime games to showcase himself before free agency.
After they promised to pay him…. and then reneged….
he certainly shouldn’t feel any obligation to play out the string on a losing season.
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@Jah26 and @Phunnypharm - I agree with both of you. The Bengals front office is dysfunctional. Any competent FO would deal him given the situation, but then again, any competent FO wouldn’t have bungled up the negotiations with one of their premier players like they did either. That’s why I remain skeptical. You two are using logical reasoning, can we agree the Bengals FO doesn’t excel in that area?
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I think OL is a much bigger need for the Lions right now, but also a much harder get in the trade market.
Would be interesting to see Lions with this guy on the DL, though.