Character and Faith

it’s just crazy to me to watch someone thank god for winning a game and their obvious ability while some kid dies of cancer somewhere.

Like, dude, you put in a shitton of work and have genetics on your side…hopefully god doesn’t require child sacrifice to make that happen.

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One of my favorite go to sermon sets is a sport physiologist who worked for the San Antonio Spurs when they won the championship. He was Christian as well

He did studies out there and I trust them and him…. When you get the same physical traits match up and the same mental processing match up and it’s equal; what make one out preform another over the long run (not short term) and it the dudes with faith in that higher power.

It put a person into the mindset of “why” they are gifted with the NFL needed abilities and when you fail as we all do, you are effected as muc in a negative way. Why? Because they have something bigger in them than just trying to validate themselves thru sports…

Being one with the big guy give us a level of context - no matter the storms - that I never never ever knew before taking that path

Spileman is a Christian…. It’s part of whybhim didn’t need! To be GM…. His purpose was to help others …… sound familiar

If it done correctly, Christians rock in the best way possible….

Sadly, when people say they are Christian and they are not, is ugly…. Like let’s kill millions in the crusades ugly….

We are actually made to be more passive than not…. Most don’t learn this let along apply it life…

Great post for me!! As it point out the obvious of the teams make up…. More than some what to admit!

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A player’s faith may be an evidence of others’ character more than his own. People who had poured themselves into them through their youth and adolescence out of their spirit of selflessness and love.

I imagine Arnold’s janitor has an interesting story about his faith that makes him an encouragement to Arnold and the other students. Reminds me a man I knew that provided maintenance at the Newman’s in Pontiac. There are countless kids who’ll make it out of those projects with a personal testimony that includes him.

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I know it’s not football, but I followed the career of Max Holloway, an MMA fighter in the UFC for many years. He was a guy who, after winning, always credited a higher power, humbly. After his last successful championship defense, however, he did not. And that marked the end of his success.

I don’t interpret this as being punished by God or what have you. I took it as Holloway developing a big head, and getting his comeuppance as a result of that.

There are 2.4 billion Christians on this rock, right now.
15.7 million Jews.
1.9 billion Muslims.
Half of the people on earth believe in the God of Abraham. That’s not counting any of the other religions that believe in The Creator.
Of course, they’re all stupid and ignorant.
I’m not exactly sure who is “arrogant” under the current conditions.

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Any of those people who claim to know, with certainty, their belief is the “correct” one (and that everyone else is most definitely wrong).

Hope that can help.

For the record, I’m not claiming to know anything. On the contrary, I’m saying I don’t know or understand who/what created the universe and how. Sure wish I did though! Do any of us truly know?

I appreciate the numbers and data you provided. It doesn’t matter how many people claim or pretend to know, however. That doesn’t change reality.

I’m all about finding out though. I appreciate mankind asking questions and seeking answers to these most fundamental questions.

I think there are just a lot of human beings who aren’t / weren’t comfortable with “not knowing” something, especially something of this magnitude. It’s not an uncommon human trait to fill in an uncomfortable blank, when needed.

Example:

Place 100 people in a theater with a curtain drawn over the stage. Ask the 100 people what is behind the curtain and let them talk to each other for a year. By the end of that year, 35 will say “X is behind the curtain”, 35 will say “Y is behind the curtain”, 15 will say “Z is behind the curtain”, and 15 will say “I have no idea what is behind the curtain”.

Who is “right”? Could be the X’s…Could be the Y’s or Z’s…could be none of them. Which is most probable?

One of the main things I have faith in is Western civilization, which of course goes back to the ancient Greeks. When that culture was just celebrated in Paris, there was a religious backlash based in ignorance that erupted in the US (mainly) and spread like wildfire on social media.

We don’t have faith in our true cultural heritage, upon which what folks typically call their “faith” is based and has flourished thanks to. We’re letting that part rot; slowly killing reason and dialogue with our irrational and ignorant ways. If we forget and forgo this truth, we may not be long for a new dark ages.

Personally, I think The Creator is front and center of most major religions.
The thing that gets lost in religion is that Abraham, Jesus, and Mohammed had a relationship with Him, not a religion.

It’s obviously either a new car, a boat, furniture, a trip somewhere nice, or a combination of. I’ve watched The Price Is Right more than once.

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Adam Sandler The Price Is Wrong Bitch GIF

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I was thinking the Monty Hall game.

There are three doors. Behind one is a fabulous prize, while the other two have junk. You get to pick a door, but they don’t show you what’s behind it – instead, they open one of the other two doors, revealing junk. Then you get the opportunity to stick with the door you chose, or switch to the remaining unopened door.

Should you stick with your original pick, should you switch, or doesn’t it matter?

Which is most likely, that they’re all right or that they’re all wrong?

YES!!!

Difference between Jamo as a rook and Sewell as a rook

Maaaaaannn, I wish I had time to go much deeper with this. Awesome topic.

“Heart” is purely based on faith and what you think you can do. Faith gives you heart. Jamo has tons of faith in his ability. Sewell has faith in himself as a man.

Jamo got significance from being a football player, and identifies as a badass football player, but you could see the doubt in him pop up a little in more than just frustration in moments. He was confused that it wasn’t working out and that it required more.

Where Jamo viewed himself as a badass football player, Sewelll KNOWS he is a badass as a MAN (who happens to play football for a living).

Faith in yourself at work can experience massive insecurities elsewhere.
Faith in yourself as a man leads to a much more fulfilled life, and not so coincidentally, even better performance at work.

More at peace = less distraction, more focus, better prioritization, and more.

Instead of scattered energy, all of his energy in moments is laser focused, more powerful, more impactful, less mistakes, better leadership, and more.

When you have faith that everything is happening for a reason and working itself out, you are less likely to give up, and will look through more of a learners lens than a victims lens.

Coach Dan has mentioned it a few times with comments like, “it was meant to happen and it’s part of our growth”.

Men…this is a team of destiny

It probably doesn’t factor much into how the Lions look for players. They know anybody can put on a crucifix and punch a stripper, and the characteristics they focus on relate to effort and dedication to the team.

Personally I don’t care if someone yells thank you Jesus, praise Allah, hail Satan, or religion is the opiate of the masses after they score a touchdown for the Lions. Just keep on making big plays for us and don’t get yourself taken off the field by doing dumb shit off the field. I would prefer though if they refrain from yelling that 9/11 was an inside job or their least favorite politician is a pod person.

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When talking about Goff yesterday, MCDC had this to say:

Another expression of faith.

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I think it’s the other way around. These are all high level athletes. I’m not saying you cannot have all the Lions traits without being Christian/Believer of some sort. But high level athletes that are also Christian/Believers tend to have those other traits because being a Christian isn’t a “me first” thing. (Or shouldn’t be). When you build an entire team of guys who believe in the Team over self, well… magic happens and there is no such thing as a “locker room cancer” in sight.

I also believe there is a cultural aspect as not as many black families have pushed religion out of their kids lives as today’s white families IMHO. People who have achieved great things often have experienced the hand of God in their endeavors and aren’t afraid or ashamed to give thanks to him!

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He talks like this semi-frequently too… If you pay attention, Dan Campbell has a ton of faith

I’ve been giving more thought to this, and I think you’re saying it right. It is the other way around.

They look for character traits in a prospect, for sure.
The love of the game is chief among them.
Being steady when the temperature goes up is another.
Being reliable or someone to count on is yet another.

Some of these traits are evidences of faith. But, faith alone doesn’t mean we have these traits. As a Christian, I can be a selfish SOB and I can get a little testy when the temperature is dialed up. I wouldn’t pass their character test, IMO.

How many teammates look up to him as big brother?
How many charities is he already a part of?
Why is he voted Captain?
How engaged is he in the community?

These aren’t just character tests, they’re faith tests. (Faith without works is dead.)

So, we land at the same spot. Faith is not a Character trait they look for. Genuine Faith is expressed in ways that display good Character. A person of faith ~should~ have good character, and there will be evidences of it.

The checkbox on their character test isn’t “Is a Christian, Yes/No”… it’s the other displays of character (fruit) that should reveal that.

You might even apply a greater set of character requirements to a professing Christian. “…From everyone who has been given much, much will be required, and from the one who has been entrusted with much, even more will be asked.”

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