Cheating KC Oline

Was our Dline better because their Oline, cheated like every play?

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The holding is one thing, but when the RT is essentially false starting every other play and no call WTF is the point of the refs or the rules. Collingsworth was laughing it was so bad, he didn’t know what else to do or say. These are the best refs in the world right!? Give me a ■■■■■■■ break.

Thank God we won, or that would be the story of the game.

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Yes he was. Hell they SHOWED slo mo replays of what he does and why it’s “justified” by the “technical” rules of the NFL. And they still couldn’t help but laugh.

We are the Lions. The only way it would be the story of the game is if WE did it and the Chiefs lost. We would be told “stop crying over the refs. Good teams overcome bad calls” if we lost.

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You’re right. It just goes to show how much power the refs have. If you aren’t going to enforce the most basic rules such as lining up correctly and not starting before the snap, something is up

Only 2 options really. Either they are incompetent or they were told not to call it. You can’t miss it 30 times.

Hutch should just line up offsides every play next week.

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There’s a ton of talk about this on the socials, and honestly I’ve come around to the view that he wasn’t offside. Most of those, if you watch, he was moving at the same time as the ball. I don’t think he has some insane reaction time, I think he educated guesses the snap count, and he got it right plenty. And most of the experts agree.

Don’t watch the rest of the line, watch the ball. He’s moving at the exact same time.

That said, he was absolutely lined up illegally, that’s what the big hullabaloo should be about.

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5 yard penalty illegal formation every single snap. Huge advantage for a OT to be that far back on a passing play especially. Sewell should be doing the exact same thing if they aint calling it

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If he didn’t have such a mobile QB that’s so dangerous at throwing on the move Taylor would get beat inside doing what he’s doing. What makes his alignment particularly unfair is that if you expose the sacrifice that Taylor is making then you fall right into the Chief’s trap.

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Yeah they have to start calling the illegal formation at least. If all the experts out there are saying it’s not a false start then I’m inclined to agree, but they can’t let him line up in the backfield.

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Doug Gotlieb on the radio said it was embarrassing how much the Chiefs got away with on the oline last night. People are bringing it up.

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The refs following the nfl rule book is like the Georgia football team following the speed limit. :smiley:

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I read a thing somewhere that maybe the Lions coaches didn’t complain was because it was basically a tell on when it would be a pass play be a run play.

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The ref’s did us a solid. Lulled them into believing they could do it all night then nailed them when it mattered. OR, they got a call from a league official saying that even people who know nothing about the game wondered how what they were doing was possible.

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I’ve seen a few slow-motion clips of Taylors “get off” and it was almost impossible to tell in slow motion. He was moving exactly when the ball started to move. In real-time…it looks offside, but it really wasn’t.

The bigger issue was the depth Taylor in each set. Refs could’ve spoken to him early in the game and corrected it…(call a penalty if he doesn’t correct it).

The “get off” wasn’t a penalty
The deep set was a penalty

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This is where I’m at. Much more concerned about the alignment and how blatantly illegal it is and yet the refs did nothing about it.

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Hmmmm…this is an interesting take.

Did the Lions NOT call attention to Juwan Taylors penalties in the game - because it was tipping the plays?

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It’s possible, but my problem is that with Taylor aligning the way he did it’s literally taking away the angle necessary for Hutch to get by him. Forces Hutch to use a bull rush almost every time and makes Hutch more 1 dimensional as a rusher.

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Yup and forcing the pressure inside makes those Mahomes rollouts more dangerous

You could see that leg movement and I wondered at the time if that constituted illegal motion. Just how much movement can you have?
“Leverage gained with motion creates an edge for the offense. Motioning to a wider alignment for an easier outside release and moving into the backfield to better secure a block are advantages that motion brings to the table.”

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