Does KOC still have COTY supporters on this forum?

[FreebirdPartDeux]

Whether KOC wins will depend on when the voting takes place (or maybe it already occurred ).

[WestCoastLionsFan]

Minny was a great team…except against the Lions and Rams.

[CasanovaJack1]

I have always been a big KOC fan, in fact I still go to the, “Knights of Columbus”, fish fry during Lent. Those old ladies always kill it on the side dishes too. Never met this COTY guy but I’ve heard good things.

[Davicus]

His management of the 4th quarter yesterday should be an automatic disqualifier, imo.

[Jah26]

@Davicus

His management of the 4th quarter yesterday should be an automatic disqualifier, imo.

To me it’s not just the abysmal clock management and lack of urgency. It’s a lack of fire. He seemed resigned. Not every coach has to be MCDC, but he seemed like just a guy hiding behind a laminated play sheet with no answers. We said it a lot last night, the Lions broke this team.

https://x.com/danorlovsky7/status/1879025393304539222

[Davicus]

@Jah26

To me it’s not just the abysmal clock management and lack of urgency. It’s a lack of fire. He seemed resigned. Not every coach has to be MCDC, but he seemed like just a guy hiding behind a laminated play sheet with no answers.

This is mostly what I was meaning to say. I’ve never seen a coach seemingly pack it up like that in a playoff game. No excuse for that. 10mins left or whatever in the 4th and they’re playing like it’s the 1st quarter when their season on the line. FFS, a TD makes it a 10 point game and they’re slow to the line, running the ball, throwing checkdowns on purpose. It was disgusting to watch.

If I were the Vikings owner, my conversation with KOC would not be a pleasant one today. Never seen a coach quit on a team before until last night.

[DeadDog]

We easily counter Sam with a record IR Roster on defense

And Dan still kept winning

We win when everyone said we wouldn’t

I can’t see it logically - KOC should be KOd!

He should be out as A possoble coach of the yr now

[lifetimelion]

Looked to me like he had thrown in the towel…way too early. He quit.

[Crotalus]

There’s simply a fundamental difference that I have with 3 of your premises.

1. That the COTY is a “biggest surprise” award instead of a best coach award.
2. That exceeding poor expectations is somehow better than actual demonstrated superiority.
3. That the preseason over/under on the Vikings was essentially correct, and that therefore KOC performed incredible magic.

I don’t care about the odds from Vegas and won’t be “instructed” by them. I’ve got my own opinion no matter who ends getting the votes. Campbell’s team also beat the over/under on wins by quite a bit, he defeated KOC twice, and in fact swept the entire division - a division with an historically good record. It’s not bias to think that coach should win.

[Motorcitymaniac]

The only choice for COY is Dan Campbell.

[SirLion]

There wasn’t a single objective metric that supported O’Connell as Coach of the Year 2 weeks ago when we had this discussion, before we played them in week 18.

We are still at that same place.

There is not a single objective metric and supports O’Connell as Coach of the Year.

[DeadStroke]

@SirLion

There is not a single objective metric and supports O’Connell as Coach of the Year.

Other than the biggest one that says he should have never have been 14-3 with Sam Darnold as his QB.

[Weaselpuppy]

they played those last 10 minutes like the hostess came to the group and said their table reservation is going to be a little bit delayed

[stephenboyd57]

I think Dan Quinn has a better case than KOC for coach of the year. Rookie qb, 12 wins, plus a road playoff win. Much better than the last 2 embarrassing Vikes games. Wash won 5 games last year. That’s one heck of a turnaround.

Dan Campbell is by far winning though

[BigNatty]

@RodWoodsonsACL

How in the world did they squeeze 14 wins out of that crap?

Lead the NFL in turnovers

They were a paper tiger, just like the year they won a bunch of games by less than 3, against mostly inferior talent. They got exposed…AGAIN

And I love it!

[BigNatty]

@Jah26

It’s a lack of fire. H

@Davicus

This is mostly what I was meaning to say. I’ve never seen a coach seemingly pack it up like that in a playoff game. No excuse for that. 10mins left or whatever in the 4th and they’re playing like it’s the 1st quarter when their season on the line. FFS, a TD makes it a 10 point game and they’re slow to the line, running the ball, throwing checkdowns on purpose. It was disgusting to watch.

If I were the Vikings owner, my conversation with KOC would not be a pleasant one today. Never seen a coach quit on a team before until last night.

I saw it that way too, men. I was watching that garbage and moving to a deeper and deeper state of gratitude for our coach.

I remember when I used to watch other teams and think, “that’s what REAL NFL is supposed to look like”. Now I watch and think, "Our guys would murder their ass!

[SirLion]

@DeadStroke

Other than the biggest one that says he should have never have been 14-3 with Sam Darnold as his QB.

I personally don’t see someones guess as to how many games a team is going to win prior to the season starting as an objective metric.

[Air2theThrown]

@argentblue

@Air2theThrown

All with a civilian QB.

Totally agree with your overall statement Air. But the choice of words for Goff seems negative here. Are you saying JG is pedestrian aka civilian? He’s been in the running for POY at times this year.

It’s an internal joke. Media called him a civillian QB. Sayings he’s not a super hero.

Knowing people are giving KOC Coach of the year because he won with Darnold as his QB I thought it funny to point out Jared Goff is considered a civillian.

[DetroitvsEverybody]

No we got to 15 wins despite losing our defensive leader in week 6

Along with a miriad of other injuries

[JerseyJungle]

@MikeMcmahon

Playoffs have zero to do with the award. The Vikings projected win total was 6.5. They finished with 14 wins. Of course KOC deserves coach of the year.

Did you ever consider that the Lions projected win total was higher than 6.5 because they had a better coach?
Projected win totals are not real. Just someone’s opinion. You[re going to vote on the best coach because someone THOUGHT they weren’t going to win many games?