There will be 2 ongoing title bout debates in this forum for the next 4-5 months, and a subsequent undercard.
- The “under card” bout is the debate regarding whether Holmes will be the magic man on draft day, and whether DC will be the guy to maximize the talent we have, and the ask for the right pieces from Holmes…. Fatty Patty wanted Tavaii, he definitely wanted Big V, and likely viewed the need for a 260 backer or big road grader on the right side because NE had “guys like that.”
Lyonfan on Record- Holmes, Campbell, Glenn etc are the right guys. I already see more from them then previous regimes. Tough love, enthusiasm, attention to what’s happening in the game, actually being real with the media. I SAY THEY ARE KEEPERS!
- Co- Main event. Goff- stop gap or a chance to be here 2-3 years or more? I believe Goff is more than a dead man walking. I thinking he’s closer to Baker, Cousins, M Ryan, Big Ben, than he is to Mahomes or Russ Wilson for sure, but he’s not Daniel Jones, Fitzpatrick, or worse. Sam Darnold and J Winston both had convincing wins as former top 5 picks, and did so on brand new teams. One best another potential rookie bust and the other destroyed a guy many of you think is the top talent in the game- IM THE GUY WHO CALLED ERIN OVERRATED BTW- Mahomes has never once had a game like Rodgers had today-
Lyonfan on the record- Goff leads us to 5 wins this year thanks to improved play of some young WRs, solid RB room, strong OL play, and a defense that will get better as the coaches weed out the guys they can’t really use. Flowers being asked to stand up looked like Pujols or Miggy much of the last 3 years. I know Miggy had some milestones this year but 40M a year for negative war DH play is awful. I think he gets some weapons next year, and we add 3-4 defensive starters too. We go 8-9 in 2022…. One more year of big assets and in 2022 we can go QB if we feel the need. I think Goff get 2 full years.
- Main Event- Matt Stafford vs the Lions- who is to blame. When you consider this is one of the more depleted Bears OL and D combos to start a year, they are starting Red Rocket and on the road, I’d expect the Rams to win at home. Hell Stafford and Lions beat the bears 10 of last 16 while here. Lol. I think we will see Stafford get dinged up, neither Henderson or Michel be able to consistently get into a groove, and I would guess on 10-11 wins. Yes that is more than here, it’s what Goff has averaged or more throughout his last 4 there though.
Lyonfan on the record- Stafford is a great guy by all accounts. He’s a good teammate and has a great arm. He will not be a top 3 MVP candidate, not a valid one anyway. He will not win NFC West. He will not go to NFC Championship.
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Coaches and GM are keepers
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Goff is our Alex Smith from KC years, maybe a bit higher ceiling. He gets 2-3 years to have a solid all around team that needs a superior talent to take job from him mid season in 2023, but we don’t throw him away for a 2nd or 3rd rounder.
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Stafford proves he was never the problem or the solution here, and won’t be there. It’s like in the NBA when they say a guy “isn’t a 1 or 2 talent on a championship team” that’s spot on. He’s a 4400 yard passer with average or less completion percentage, no threat with his legs, poorly timed turnovers and issues staying healthy. When he’s healthy he gets about where Cousins or Ryan get to, but looks better doing it because of his arm talent. Results are same though.