If it was a illegal motion why was it reviewed by the up stairs guys. If it was why wasn’t there a flag and let play go on and then call it? They reviewed it up stairs, but since when are those reviewed. Someone with the rules should no better then me. If a player is indeed in illegal motion there is a flag right after the snap, but not on this play. Just seems odd to me
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So not one person? How is illegal motion reviewable ?
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I don’t fully understand the rule. looked like biased officiating from where I was sitting though.
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Marty - illegal motion isn’t reviewable. Supposedly, the refs had a conversation after the play and agreed it was a penalty. That’s where the ‘questionable’ part comes in. Many believe that this is where the league office phones in, chimes in secretly, etc. to favor the Chiefs and influence the game how it best benefits them. The detailed explanation of the rule is below, but that doesn’t do anything to explain why it was called after the fact. As Big Natty said, biased officiating at best.
No way can you convince me that they figured this out all on their own with no help. If we broke the rule, so be it. But shit gets missed all the time and why this suddenly got fixed out of nowhere is suspect at best.
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It was over a minute later
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Nfl broke the rules to take away a td. Pre snap penalties aren’t reviewable yet that’s exactly what they did. Basically unless the flag is thrown immediately their nothing you can do, just like the tush push isn’t reviewable.
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The refs didn’t know the rule
Our Lions coaches didn’t know the rule… all he had to do was have Goff set up as a “offset fullback” for 1 second then go in motion
This was as bad as the Skipper reporting eligible bull shit.
NFL chimed in and took a TD off the board for the team playing the Chiefs. Like they did last week on MNF
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I don’t understand why it makes a difference whether he were to step back and get set or not after being under center. Whether he takes off immediately or he takes off after getting set, really has no bearing on the outcome of the play. Either the defense is going to react or they are not. Kind of a silly rule if you ask me.
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The problem is 100% that the league chimed in from New York, and that’s straight from Dan. You just can’t do that. Where does it end if they were to do that on every missed penalty? On that same play, Chiefs lined up offsides, so why wasn’t it offsetting penalties?
The league gets in its own way with this crap and the “it’s scripted/rigged” crowd continues to grow. The Chiefs with a terrible o-line had zero penalties until 2 minutes left in the game? Come on. I just wish the Lions played better so that we at least had a reason to gripe more about the terrible refs.
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I thought it was the right call. Refs had to confer afterwards because the ref who spotted Goff at the QB position needed the line judge to confirm whether he stopped his motion.
Thats my issue.
Yes its a penalty however it was never called on the field
REPLAY ASSIT called the penalty on a non reviewable play.
Thats the issue. Right then and there i knew the game was over.
Did the team play great? No. But there was ZERO chance the Lions were gonna be able to claw back from that.
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Yeah it doesn’t make sense for the booth to call illegal formation. If that’s the case, the booth should be able to call all penalties like the tush push false starts and stuff.
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Right call or not. Its a none reviewable play. Why did they allow the pi, and review it. Kelce couldn’t catch that. Why not review that play?
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How come it looked like a regular motion play that we see at every level. He never advanced forward until the ball was snapped. Looked legit.
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Plus Jones was once again lined offsides on the same play. Just seems fishy.
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The exact opposite happened in the Chiefs/Jags game last week…but it also played in the Chiefs favor. The Chiefs had an illegal pick play on a TD. The ref threw the flag in real time. It was a penalty. The refs got together and discussed it, and decided AFTER THE FACT to pick the flag up and award the Chiefs a TD.
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This^^^^^
Dallas- pickup the flag on PI that was clearly PI
Dallas- 10 minute discussion on tackle eligible that took points off the board with video footage seemingly showing the “reporting” happening?
Green Bay- 2 illegal hands to the face penalty on Flowers in the same game, despite NEVER having a single one called in his career prior? Oh yeah- and his hand never even glanced off the facemask. At least 20 times a game a defenders or OL players hands rides up the pads and either accidentally or egregiously contacts the helmet, and it’s not called 95% of the time. Yet they call it in crunch time when it didn’t actually happen
Chicago- the catch- nuff said…
Atlanta- the TD by Tate that was never a TD, but instead of getting to spike the ball in 9 seconds at the one (nobody had to run far to lineup) we ate a 10 second runoff? The ref makes a bad call that automatically costs us the game?
Seattle- the Kam batted ball out of Calvin’s hand, and then punt into the stands.. it’s automatically a penalty on Kam and our ball on the 1…
Many like to puff theirs chests and act like not blaming the refs is some badge of honor? We got screwed again…. Period!!!
Should we have been more resilient? Sure- I’m also guessing if somebody chose to watch the tape again and focus on Hutch- there were probably 10 missed offensive holding calls missed, but zero called…. They sure didn’t miss a DPI on 3rd and long by KC- despite the ball being 10-15 yards overthrown??? Was it holding? Yes…. Illegal contact? Sure… was the ball remotely catchable? No- it was not! Had they called the proper penalty we’d have had no choice but to blame our guy… however since the ball wasn’t catchable at all, and they called dpi, how did the revs not convene (with some help from New York) and pick up the flag for it being uncatchable- per the rule???
- We have no choice but to move on, but taking away an amazing play where our QB catches a TD and stealing the energy and points has a real impact… giving the Chiefs the ball on the 5 vs the 35 has a real impact.
- There is ZERO chance any of the ref’s knew the rule, or that Goff broke it. The “MOMENT” the rules guru jumped on the broadcast I told my buddies - we are about to get F’d somehow. The FG team was out there. The broadcasters weren’t questioning anything at all… just poor a rules guru pops on to say that a penalty was missed and magically a ref conference happens and out comes a flag they all forgot to throw? GTFO
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I wonder if that was Jamo’s bet?
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They tried to screw us out of an obvious TD by Matt Stafford vs Dallas in 2013. It was the fake spike game where Matt ran it in for the game winning score. It was clearly a TD. But the refs took extra time to review it closely. They were looking for a way to take the score off the board, including an “inadvertant whistle.”
We ended up NOT getting screwed. But its amazing how bad they wanted to take that TD off the board.
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