You are making an argument that I wasn’t making. What I said was when it comes to letting him walk and hoping for a comp pick two years from now vs getting a 3rd round pick now for him…I think they made the better of the two moves. Did Seattle WIN the trade? Hell yeah they did. They get a talented, half assed player for what it SHOULD cost a team to have the talented, half assed player.
It reminds me of Cliff Avril. Cliff was limited by skill set, not effort. He was never worth the $100M deal he was asking for from us, but easily worth the $7M or so Seattle paid him to make him to be a pass rush specialist. The Texans were not willing to shell out major money for Clowney long term. But judging by the fact that Seattle isn’t either (as of right now), that tells you no other team was willing to either because Clowney would not have agreed to play for Seattle if another team wanted to give him a big time deal.
I guess I don’t totally understand how they signed him to a one year 15 million dollar deal…and gave him all the leverage. That, in itself, seems like a major f-up. Probably why their GM is gone now.
Ideally, they kept him and made a run at a superbowl. Especially now that they have Tunsil and Stills.
Did you know, the Texans have had the #1 overall pick three times now and none of those picks got a 2nd contract.
The Texans didn’t “sign him” to a 1 year contract. They placed a tag on him. He had the leverage because he didn’t sign the tag, meaning he’s not under contract…which is why he can not be fined for not showing up. And since he’s not under contract, he can not be traded unless he chooses to sign the tag. So in order to trade him, Clowney and his agent have to agree to the team hes going to and the terms that the team is presenting. If Clowney doesn’t want to go to a certain team that Houston wants to trade him to, he simply can refuse to sign the tag.
They would only get a third for Clowney if they failed to sign a high caliber player that offset his loss. Because they have such limited draft capital I would imagine that they may be planning to try and make a big splash in free agency.
That’s why if we have a potential 2020 FA on our roster now that we want to bring back, extend him during this season if you can so it doesn’t impact the comp pick formulation (at least that’s how I think it works).
Late breaking news is that they will confiscate Ansahs Jersey and velcro Clowney over the nameplate, since there is the same chance both will be healthy in the same game as there is Antonio Brown being awarded a Rhodes Scholarship after his online semester at CMU.
I believe once a certain date passes the option to sign a long term deal expires once a player is tagged. They are either forced to play 1 season on the tag or sit the year out. I think that should rework this in the next CBA.
I think there’s going to be a lot of movement on franchise tags in general. The NBA just had an amazing offseason with so many big name players changing teams…I think the NFL would be wise to let players move more freely from team to team. I think the players will push for more guaranteed salary, more say in disciplinary decisions, less restrictions as far as franchise tags go and a bigger part of the overall pie.
The player movement in the NBA is one of the reasons why alot of people say they stopped watching the NBA. Another is the idea that most teams dont stand a chance in hell.
Then why is the NBA TV contract so lucrative that they have a $100MM salary cap per team with 1/3 the players as the NFL.
I don’t get it either, but Otto Porter makes the same amount of money as the #3 highest paid QB. Chandler Parsons had a 4 year deal that made his annual salary higher than any non QB.
Porter is a nice 3rd guy on a middle division team and Parsons was at the time a credible scorer with huge flaws in his game. So, basically Quandre Diggs and Mike Furry, for a mixed metaphor like comparison.
Basketball is Swimming In Cash…and it is impossible to watch given how shitty the product is, let alone if you are in the 24 or so markets that have no damn chance at all when the season starts.
First, the NFL makes a significant amount more money than the NBA despite playing far fewer games. The NFL has dialed in a formula that dollar for dollar…is far ahead of the NBA.
What the players make is irrelevant when discussing business models. But as a side note, if my kid had the option of being a star in the NFL or average player in the NBA…I would tell him to go to the NBA.
If Clowney was a legitimate superstar the compensation would’ve been more than a 3rd. Clowney is definitely a good player, so adding him for a 3rd round pick is worth doing if you think you’ll make a playoff run. He was overrated for awhile but some are starting to come around to more accurately portraying him in my opinion.
My belief is the fact that there are far more casual bandwagon fans than there are hardcore root for one team type fans. Most of the Casual bandwagon fans frankly couldn’t name the starting five much less the entire team of their supposed favorite team but they definitely know who LeBron James is, for example. However those millions and millions of casual bandwagon fans buy millions and millions of pieces of merchandise of the superstars.