What is inflammatory is having to listen to posters compare Ruggs to Tavon Austin, and listen to that same person just talking for the sake of talking and trying to argue just because. I am all for educated discussion… but when people throw nonsense out like that ,or when that person has never watched Ruggs is inflammatory. It’s a ridiculous take, and they do not play similar games. To listen to NYL spout off in an arrogant manner when he is laughably wrong is inflammatory. NYL is a big boy he can take it and I enjoy his takes. I schooled him and he will take his beatings when they’re deserved.
This is my only issue with this board. People cannot separate facts from opinions. When you have 2 people arguing their opinion, there is no right or wrong. No way to prove who is right or wrong.
I think Okudah is going to be a disappointment if taken in the top 5. Will he suck? Probably not, but that was never the point. NYL wants to claim he is right, but presents exactly zero facts. Just accept that you and Iggy have 2 different takes on a player. It happens. GMs across the league see most players differently.
The problem is that we as fans tend to blow-up our analogies of players we tend to like…or don’t like.
Iggy comparing Ruggs to Tyreek Hill is a good example of blowing a player (up) to make him look better than he really is. Hill has played all over the field in college and the NFL, that’s not what Ruggs does. Hill played out of the backfield at Oklahoma State, Ruggs hasn’t.
The speed and electricity is there but Ruggs isn’t Tyreek, they just happen to both be fast. And not every fast player is Tyreek Hill, which is why I threw-out Tavon Austin’s name. Hopefully Ruggs doesn’t become the next Tavon Austin but he’s definitely not going to be Tyreek Hill 2.0.
Good player though, he’ll be fun to watch in the NFL. He’ll go somewhere between our 1st and 2nd round pick to another team, so we really don’t even have to worry about it.
This is a great example. Definitely? You have no idea. It’s just a comparison. Maybe he ends up even better. Not every college player is used the same way they will be in the NFL.
I think Okudah will be more Bryant Westbrook than he will be Richard Sherman. Fight me. Lol.
I was saying that Ruggs wasn’t lined-up in the backfield and taking handoffs like Hill was in college. That’s why I compare Hill more to a Chris Johnson that can catch.
But you are right, it’s just my opinion. I don’t know, you don’t know, nobody really knows. We pick a spot on the graph where we think he’ll land and some of us will be right, some of us won’t.
FYI, I compared Okudah to a healthy Bryant Westbrook first I believe…but it’s funny that you also see that comparison. Westbrook was sticky as hell.
And for the record, if I’m wrong, so be it. I don’t really care.
Like I said, I think he’s gonna be drafted somewhere between our picks anyways.
It’s not the case here … Fact… Ruggs is not an Elite route runner . That’s not an opinion , the tape shows that …the same applies for he lets to many passes get into his body …he is not a hands catcher.
Blocking is a lot more subjective. Many WR’s are going through the motions on run plays because they would rather not tackle and let others shed and tackle so sometimes Ruggs looks okay blocking, other times you can see he is just not a good blocker .
If I said he will never be Elite at any of these things and could not get better that would be an opinion . If I said he had no heart …that would be an opinion …
