Key senators strike bipartisan deal on sweeping college sports reform with transfer, eligibility and cap enforcement

Fixed it for you.

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Some people want to talk about the actual subject.

Ill just keep nuking posts. I got time…sitting in a waiting room to get my eyes lasered…forever….

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The Man got me down so long I don’t know what up is.

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My biggest problem with the bill (besides why the F Congress is wasting time on it) is the transfer restrictions. That really strays back into the old we own your rights but you don’t get employee protections of the old system that the Supreme Court took out to the woodshed a few years ago. If this somehow winds up back with them I don’t think it will do well, and it shouldn’t.

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This part will be especially interesting. Didn’t FL just pass legislation that allows high school player to be compensated? Would have a profound impact on college hockey especially and to a lesser extent men’s basketball.

Kind of odd that they use NCAA, enforcing and standards all in the same sentence. NCAA has been a huge part of the problem for decades.

To me, much of this just looks like a means to protect the cash grab. The NCAA was losing control of the cash flow. Hopefully this is just a first step, because the whole system needs sweeping changes, part of which is brooming the “old guard.”

I think the competing in other leagues means, AFTER highschool, if you play in ANY other league that pays money, your instantly no longer college eligible. Which is how it should be. Either go to college out of high school. Or go pro.

The transfer rule i dont think will get passed any kind of court system. It is going to stay open season.

Eventually there will be a new “super league” which may help fix all this.

Weather its the b10 and sec branching off, all of p4 or some combo. It will happen after the 2029 season. Or at least the process will start.

The networks want it. And they are the reason for the playoffs, for conferences expansion etc. so the league will happen.

So, once that league is established. If its still a part of the NCAA it will be tricky. But odds are they will branch offf of the Ncaa. Teams will just be sponsored by the universities.

Players will be fulll pro athletes. Then they will unionize.

Then you will have contracts with a cap limit and transfer rules.

Thats the only way this can be fixed with out a major supreme court ruling

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Without rereading the article doesn’t the transfer rule allow more than one transfer, just on the 2nd one you have to sit out a year.

Also, iirc again no rereading, doesn’t it also require eligibility to end at five years? If it does then the transfer rule requiring you to sit out on the 2nd transfer makes no sense.

I believe I read that UM’s Cason is planning to redshirt this upcoming season, however, if the five year rule passes then he won’t.

It wont pass. The open transfer ruling happened because the NCAA was about to have to go to the supreme court to defend the limitations.

So in order for any limitation to be put into place theres only 2 options.

1 - Supreme Court ruling

2 - Super league branched away from NCAA.

However the 5 year limit post highschool will never change. Its been to court many times. With only extreme exemptions. (Ie Covid)

The NIL limit can never change. Directly from the school is already capped. 3rd party is just sponsorships.

So really nothing is going to change anytime soon. 2029 at the earliest when the TV networks negotiate new deals and apply their will.

I think the players need to unionize. Government fix it for you? Yeah no. Suck my left nut.

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this is the problem, they can’t unionize. They NCAA is bending over backwards to avoid labeling them employees because they don’t want them to unionize and create a CBA which would all cost the universities a lot more money. The way it is now they can pass the buck on to the boosters. I’m sure the coaches hate it but the administrators prefer it just the way it is. The $20 million they are paying now is peanuts compared to what they would pay if there was a CBA. Remember the NFL CBA pays the players something like 50% of the revenue.

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Hence why i said the tv networks will push for the power 4 conferences to branch away from the NCAA. Form their own league. Then the players will be able to unionize.

And yes players get 50/50 in pro leagues. But that includes benefits. After benefits its closer to 40%. and players are now getting ~22% currently,

Take Michigan. ~$150m in revenue. Players get $33m in cash and ~ $8.5m in scholarships.

Thats nearly 30%. And in this league, sponsorships paid to the football program directly rather than going through then entire AD. Meaning more revenue and more money for players. So yea i could easily see the players getting another 10% still making the university money to give back to the AD and thus paying for the other sports programs still in the NCAA.

TV networks control all of it. Why did penn st join in the 90s? Because once conferences were able to independently make tv contracts, the networks wanted more big games. Enter penn st,

Why did Nebraska join in the late 00s? Because they were launching the BTN. And fox a main sponsor, wanted more coverage.

Why did Maryland and Rutgers join mid10s The Fox TV contract was up. And FOX wanted more tv markets on the east coast.

Why did the 4 Pac schools join recently? Yup. Fox contract was up again and they wanted the west coast. So whats gonna happen when this contract is up at the end of the decade? Super league. Country wide coverage with more premier games throughout the entire season

All the networks and Billion dollar sponsors are already pushing for it.

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This is a tough one. Please do not take this as a political comment. U of M is a great example. It’s tough to look at privatization of college sports, running a business that makes 150M, but then accepts much more than that in governmental support for admin and research purposes.

Seems like it would be like if the government paid NFL teams directly (beyond tax support).

It’s a weird feeling that I see universities making so much yet an out of school tuition for a public university that gouges people so badly. And this is by no means only directed at UMich. The entire concept of paying college players millions while they receive an academic scholarship is baffling to me. seems like an overwhelming contradiction.

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True. But 99/100 cases. College athletics is completely self sustaining from the university anyway. No government money going to the sports. At least no more than any other multi billion dollar corporation (UoM Sports have a $1.2B Valuation) the rest of Uom has a $20B valuation. 16x larger

Also the top 20 athletic departments in college sports. Have a similar Valuation as NHL teams.

They really are 2 separate branches of an institution. With the only connection is the logo and president. Everything under the president are completely separate entities

Few of these kids go to school to attend classes. That should be optional. They go to play football. And if they’re producing millions in revenue they deserve representation that will look out for their interests and make sure they’re not take advantage of. As they will be if they can’t form a united front.

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Yes i agree. After they branch off. Do you want to go to school for free? Or ~$80,000 a year bonus and not go to school?

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I think most people on both sides of the aisle think this is pretty dumb. Maybe it will bring the country together :slight_smile:

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