He seems like a guy the Lions would love to get.
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Yeah Ringo should be fine against your Mike Evans types, Mike Williams, DK Metcalf. Itās the route-runners that will eat him up.
DE vs DT. Well, we have some pretty good DEās already, we all know that. Who is a DEās best friend? A DT that can get the QB out of the pocket. Also a pretty good friend for the secondary. I want the best penetrating,(thatās what she said, HA), DT in the draft. So whoever grades out best is the guy I want. Not sure if that is Carter, or Calijah Kancey in the 2nd, or another playerā¦I think that makes a huge impact. So many highly rated CBās you have to grab one in the first. For us, I absolutely think BPA and need will match up pretty well in this draft and should allow us to make another big step forward.
Witherspoon was the CB I wanted at 18. Starting to think he could be in the mix at 6.
I think Kancey is definitely the best penetrator. Of course he comes with the caveat that heāll struggle against the run but hopefully that pushes him down the board a little. NFL decision-makers donāt like size outliers (especially if he has short arms too). Iām thinking he could still be around with our 3rd, and Iād pounce.
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I think his weight will be impactful. If he can get up to 285 and workout well then I think GMs are fine with that. If itās more like 275 then 
Thatās kind of silly IMO I just think 280lbs is one of those thresholds for that position.
I imagine heāll work hard to weight in heavier than expected.
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Yeah agreed his weight will really matter, but his arm length will too (especially at DT) and thereās nothing he can do about that. Itās not the end of the world, Ed Oliver still went top ten with relatively short arms (31 3/4), but heās much more of an outlier.
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True but I think GMs are more comfortable with outliers on day 2. It seems that he wins with quickness and agility more so than hand fighting. I think if he has eye popping numbers where expected and weighs in 265ish heās likely to go sooner than our 3rd. Just such a dearth of interior rush guys.
He looks explosive as hell on tape so I assume parts of the combine will go well for him.
Yeah his movement skills from inside are unparalleled in this class. I assume heāll test really well in the explosive drills like the jumps and the 1st ten of his 40.
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I see Milton Williams as a comp. I doubt Klancey that kind of athlete but so mich more production at a higher level and from a school with DT pedigree. I think weād havebto use that Minny pick to feel confident about getting him.
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You may be right, itās really up to the testing and measurables. Heās one of my most drafted players on those simulators so I hope we can get good value on him.
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Heās one of the few guys that would give our pass rush a completely new look. For the most part I see a lot of redundant pieces. Not that there is anything wrojg with throwing wavws of good redundant pieces at the OL, but variance would be preferable IMO.
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Thatās where Iām at, and I donāt think itās a reach with that pick. I just think that having a guy that can force QBās out of the pocket would be huge for our existing D.
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Weāre all pretty much in agreement. Iām just hoping we can steal him with a later pick because thereās a few boxes he wonāt tick that FOs wonāt like. But Iād be fine with nabbing him with the Vikings 2nd rounder.
Heās probably interior James Houston. But thatās fine. Specialist or not if he helps us close out games then Iām all for it.
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Yep if we do decide to take him heās most likely still just a 2nd and long and 3rd down guy, so we still need a first down guy. Is he already on the team, well, maybe. Maybe itās Paschal instead as the 2nd and 3rd down guy.
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Do we really need a pass rushing DT? Especially if we resign Cominsky, we potentially already have Paschal and Cominsky for that role. Now yes you can always upgrade talent, and more depth is a good thing, just not sure its some missing component of our defense. Id rather find a good all around DT than soneone who is going to be a liability against the run when you can just slide a DE inside.
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The thing about Kancey - or at least the theory behind him - is that heāll pressure from the inside far better than the guys you slide in from the edge. Heās made a living doing it, whereas edge guys who come down in the nascar package may or may not be able to dial up the juice as regularly. Cominsky was great for us, but he wasnāt a guy other teams had to game plan to stop from a pressure perspective. Kancey could be that guy. His pressure rate in college was through the roof, right around the best in the country.
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In theory that sounds great. The problem is you just described a 1st round draft pick. But maybe nobody else will realize that and Holmes will strike again.
Ha, yeah, most of the time. And some of the simulators have him right on the cusp of that. Iām hoping his outlier size numbers (6ā, 280, short arms) push him down the board.