But I doubt that we want to play that way. We should bc the key is can you motivate your undersized defense into playing top run defense. We have a staff of motivators. And yet …
I think Tiernan can start from day one on the left side. I would like Freeling at 17 but if he is gone my next target would be Tiernan. Hopefully we could move down a few spots and still get him. I do think Fano could start on the left side as well but I expect him to be gone. I do like Iheanachor but that means Sewell moves to the left side.
One thing I like about Tiernan is has been doing against top level competition for 3 years and he is a very polished pass protector. He may not have the ceiling that Freeling has but he has a solid floor. Just watching his tape during the season I was wishing he was our LT last year.
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I don’t think it is too late to move him back. I was hoping he could get some snaps last year but he couldn’t stay on the field just to play special teams. I had a top 100 grade on him as a safety when he was coming out. I was really disappointed when I found out we were moving him to RB full time. At the time it was understandable because we had 2 potential all world safeties. That may not be the case now.
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I think Tiernan and Mauigoa are easily the best bets to start on day one, but I do worry about the former’s ability to hold up on the left side. He’s got the technique and juice for it, but the speed to power from the Verses of the world give me pause. It’s the one area where his wonky, tall+short-armed build really shows (Of course the same issue gives me pause on the right side as well, but I feel a lot better about Goff reacting to it if he can see it.)
I’m really surprised how low he is on most boards. I think 17 is too high, but one of the reasons I’ve liked him all process is he’s an option at 51, and I think he’d be a steal there. Risky as hell to wait on him to reach us there and I’m almost certain Brad would trade up to get him if he is our guy, unless there’s another guy around that area he likes nearly as much. Given our OT need though, it would be a risk.
Absolutely, that’s the whole reason I brought it up.
I am really curious to see the actual measurements on Tiernan next week. Zeirlein said his arms are so short he will have to move inside. I do not like him the same if he can’t stay at LT. I just don’t like his run blocking enough for a move to one of the other positions. There are many other players I would prefer at the other positions. There have been a lot of RT only prospects but for me I see Tiernan as an odd LT only prospect.
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Yeah, I don’t like him inside at all honestly. He just doesn’t have the build for it. Not every prospect with short arms can just move inside and thrive, especially not when they’re built high-cut with natural leverage issues. Things happen a lot faster in there. It’s the same reason I didn’t like Wyatt Milum moving inside last year. That’s what the Jags did with him but he can’t get any run.
Even if his arms are 32 inches or so, I’d make him a T. He’s got the feet, grip strength, and technique to survive despite that length. His margin for error is pretty thin, but that’s been true in college as well, and he’s held up really well against some of the best that competition has to offer.
As for the R vs L discussion, we’re in a unique spot because our other tackle, no matter where he plays, is Sewell. We can pretty easily flip some of our power run plays to the left side, especially if Mahogany wins that job. I think he’s better at the power aspects of the position anyway.
But when Tiernan most often loses, it’s to a speed-to-power bull rush type, and I really don’t want that to happen on Goff’s blind side. At least if it’s on the right Goff can dirt the ball and live to play another snap. It happens infrequently enough that I still think he’d be a net positive there overall.
Why do you think he has to stay on the left?
I guess it all comes down to value. The reason I like him for us is I think he is plug and play at LT and Sewell stays where he is at. He did play a few games at RT his freshman year but I think a move to the right side means he has to go through a learning process. In our offense I think LT is perfect for him because Goff stays in the pocket and he can force speed guys to take a very wide arc to get around him. He is very smart and in time I think he could adjust TO RT.
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I guess to me moving Tiernan to RT is like moving ARSB to outside WR. Sure he can do it but the value is different. Sorry my caps were stuck and I couldn’t finish my last post.
To me the appeal of Tiernan moves down if we add a credibly stop gap veteran. In that event give me someone with less polish and more upside.
But if we need competence right now then I totally get it.
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Yeah that’s fair, he’s more used to LT, and in the short-term it probably helps him hit the ground running to stay there. I just think his long-term position is at RT, especially for us, and don’t think it would be too problematic to make the change, though certainly it throws an unknown into the equation.
And for the record I don’t think he’d have any problem with the speed rushers. It’s the through-the-chest guys who give him problems, and the NFL has a lot of those guys and is adding more every day. Seems to be the current preference for most teams. There’s no faster pressure than going through an OL’s chest, and for Goff specifically it has the potential to ruin a play on a more catastrophic level than someone with a little mobility. I would really rather prefer he be able to see it coming when it happens.
Yeah I agree with this, but I had been approaching this from an “easier said than done” mindset. This latest news that we might hammer the FA OT market could change the calculus pretty dramatically. At the very least it would give us more options.
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Mike Renner is a Proctorologist. And maybe Freeling will be drafted at #6 if the first 5 picks are his top rated OTs!!!
Yes, he is one of Proctor’s biggest fans. And I usually agree with him. Not here.
Risdon, conversely, has him 79th on his board. The opinions on him are going to be really wide-ranging.
And the combine will have answers if Proctor is brave or foolish enough to participate in the full array of underwear tests.
He SHOULD participate in the explosive testing. He could jump 30+ inches at 350+ pounds, and I suspect the long jump would be good too. And the ten-yard-split.
But yeah if his agent has a brain, he will keep him away from the SS and 3-cone. He doesn’t want to go the route of DK Metcalf.
Jeremy Renner is bearish on Proctor so you’re in Renner balance.
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This makes it that much easier to take a tackle that might not be quite ready. Maybe they can take a Max or Freeley now and breathe easier. Maybe play them at LG
Hope! Right. Tell that Bonds and Sosa. Pure hope 
