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The idea is that both are attainable. We have the money to get a difference maker in the middle, still get a CB in FA and also draft one. You know, Goff’s stats showed that he was worse under pressure with re to int’s but this chart shows he was better after the first 6 games.
Every QB is going to have a different reaction, is some pressure better than none? Sure, are no sacks better than some? Well, uh.
BTW there is only 1 NFL team that has fewer sacks than us and has a winning record, the Rams.
Pressure as a statistic is a somewhat flawed metric, I agree.
But pressure as something a defensive lineman can exert on a QB is incredibly valuable. Say what you will about Belichick, but I think we can all agree he’s a defensive savant. And he’s been pointing out the importance of pressure for years now:
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There’s pressure that get’s to a QB and there’s pressure that doesn’t, otherwise there would be int’s and bad passes every time he got pressure. Sacks, well, they matter every single time.
So you disagree with Belichick. That’s fine, to each his own.
To me sacks are like fantasy championships. Some talent went into it, some luck, you get your name on a trophy.
Pressure is the amount of times you make the fantasy playoffs to give yourself a chance at the championship. The more you make it, the better your chance. That’s why it’s a much better metric for future sacks.
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There is nothing I said that says I disagree with him, the difference is 100% who is calling the D and what kind of talent you have. 2+2=4 in Bills world. In our world pressure does not equal what it does in Bill’s world, 2+2 has yet to equal 4.
It mattered on 2 of Mullens’s 4 INTs, many of his incompletions, and the fumble that should have ended the game if Comiskey had grabbed it.
It mattered on the fumble by Russ that Buggs scooped, many of his incompletions, and some of the turnover on downs.
It mattered for at least one of Love’s INTs to Jacobs, Baker was off all game long, one of Young’s INTs, Ridder’s fumble, and many, many missed 3rd down conversions.
Pressure absolutely makes an impact.
Your problem is that it’s not happening enough, and I agree with you. But it will.
Look, I’m done, there is no world where the Lions pressures have ended in what anyone could reasonably expect as a proper end result. 23% of pressures, on average, end in a sack in this league. Care to guess what happens with the Lions? How about the actual time it takes to GET that “pressure”?
“I was looking at some TruMedia numbers: Average time to pressure among defensive fronts, the Lions have the fourth-slowest average time to pressure at 2.65 seconds,” Pouncy said. “Quarterbacks opponents’ average time to throw, the Lions have allowed the second longest time to throw at 2.99 seconds. And then average time to sack, the Lions have the slowest average time to sack in the NFL at 4.17 seconds.
In other words, the Lions are simply giving opposing quarterbacks too much time, even if pressure is eventually getting there."
I can cherry pick plays too where they got pressure and it amounted to squat because it was so slow in developing that players were able to get open.
EVERY team gets pressure that results in negative plays for their opponent. You really think that trotting out a handful of wins can move the needle on this? It doesn’t and won’t. All of our stats say that there is a disconnect between pressures and what a reasonable expectation might be for results. The truth is out there.
The best. Our pass rush is absolutely the NFL Vanilla Ice equivalent
You are hurting everyone’s feelings you are ruining everyone who think Hutch is elite and not just a good player. Because Hutch is the pressure King! Can’t get home but t-Rex Hutch gets close!
QB pressure is great and can have a major effect on mediocre to bad QBs.
Not a fan of that 1.5-2 yards requirement, though. Seems too far. 1 yard would be a better indication of solid pressure.
HUTCH
I’m absolutely not calling out Hutch, I watch how he is defended and know he’s doing his job. But the problem is he is really the only one that opposing teams have had to plan for with re to the pass rush. It seems our DC has finally lived up to that and we are seeing blitzes, and they are getting home. The pressure stat for me, for this team, has always felt like calling a spade a shovel.
I like Hutch also he is a good football player! He is not elite and probably never will be he has short arm’s especially for a guy that is 6’7”
Love him as a football player not as a pass rusher
So take him from the position he is most suited for and do what, make him a QB?
It’s not the original “under pressure”
It’s a sampled version
DB!
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I don’t know what Public Enemy was thinking, but this is not the follow up to 911 is a Joke that the public wanted.
So,was that pressure? How’d that work out?
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