Stafford now has as many rings as Farve & ARog

valionfan1 · February 17, 2022, 4:56pm

Staff has some pretty impressive asterisks next to his name that will help. I personally think he is first ballot now. But just two more years with Rams and he should be over 50% winning percentage and have 3 straight winning seasons. That will help remove a few more of the negative asterisks next to his name.
At that point he will have a lifetime winning percentage, SB, top 5 probably in most QB categories, QB the top 2 (at least) WR annual receiving records and possibly a PB, MVP or other playoff stats. At that point it is not even a discussion - just waiting out the 5 years.

Detfan · February 17, 2022, 5:35pm

It sure seems like the way rogers, farve and breeze is talked about didnt even realize the only had 1 super bowl

BigNatty · February 17, 2022, 7:41pm

Yes to all of this. The anti-Stafford sentiment is fading quickly. He has a great shot to get MVP, lots of yards, be top 5 for the rest of his career, lots of playoff victories, division titles, etc.

Just making a joke out of his detractors, for the most part.

Mr.Peabody · February 17, 2022, 8:01pm

Part of that is because they did alot outside of their 1 Super Bowl victory. Rodgers has 10 double digit win seasons, 8 division titles, 11 playoff appearances and had his team in the NFC Championship game 5 times. Favre had 10 double digit win seasons, 8 division titles, 12 playoff appearances and had his team in the NFC Championship 5 times. Brees had 10 double digit win seasons, 8 division titles, 10 playoff appearances and had his team in the Conference Championship 3 times.

That’s alot of winning associated with their name and that people saw on TV.

valionfan1 · February 17, 2022, 8:10pm

Yes to this - It is really difficult to get to and then win the superbowl. Outside of New England few teams have been able to even get back. Much less win. The runs that San Fran, Dallas. Pittsburg are really impressive. Over the last 2 decades NE is the only team that routinely got there. Schedules, Free Agency, injuries and even refereeing all play a part.

Detfan · February 17, 2022, 8:33pm

Great reply

LineBusy · February 17, 2022, 8:36pm

5 more than Detroit has in the history of the NFC Central and NFC North combined.

Canucklehead · February 17, 2022, 8:48pm

I love Stafford. But Lions fans are really not in sync with the national perspective. Even with this superbowl, he is not a “Lock” for first ballot hall of fame. The voters just don’t think like that. He has the volume stats and he has the ring, but he has never sniffed an MVP or an all pro. He’s never been considered the best, even for a particular year. He should get in now, but if he were to never win another, he might not be as much of a lock as you think. You don’t have to look far to see the way the national talking heads are looking at it. At least he’s in the debate now though.

By the way I hate most of these people, but you have to remember who is voting. It certainly isn’t a lock if he were to retire tomorrow.

Air2theThrown · February 18, 2022, 5:36am

My feelings exactly @Canucklehead.

I am a Stafford fan and I just don’t think he’s a lock for all the reasons both you an I have outlined above.

If he continues to win in LA then his odds will continue to go up. Winning a Super Bowl finally put him in the conversation but he still has a lot to prove before he’s a lock.

BigNatty · February 18, 2022, 5:54am

To me, the timing of this conversation isn’t right.
He’s gonna kick a whole lot more ass, before it’s all said and done.

Canucklehead · February 18, 2022, 12:39pm

I dont disagree on both points, my bald homie, but its the offseason and its a juicy topic! We can’t help ourselves!

BigNatty · February 18, 2022, 1:53pm

LOL - Woooord!

KingSlappy · February 18, 2022, 2:04pm

FWIW, here is a list of current voters.

KingSlappy · February 18, 2022, 5:57pm

Anyone else out there use the phrase why can’t the Lions get a QB like that or I wish the Lions had a QB like that while watching the Rams playoff run?

Mr.Peabody · February 18, 2022, 7:41pm

He looked like the same QB to me, so it never crossed my mind. I did find myself wondering why we couldn’t get some of the calls or no calls that I saw in that game though.

Air2theThrown · February 21, 2022, 4:23pm

Yep

Air2theThrown · February 21, 2022, 4:27pm

So the athletic did an in-depth look at Stafford HofF odds.

Here’s the link - you may need a subscription.

The article conclusion.

A poor situation in Detroit unquestionably held back Stafford. He still needs to enjoy a run of success during his career to become a Hall of Famer. This season was a spectacular start.

If Stafford were to win another Super Bowl, his credentials would align pretty closely with those for Eli Manning. Stafford turned 34 this month and basically needs three or four more strong individual seasons, accompanied by team success, to fit the established Hall of Fame template more meaningfully.

BigNatty · February 21, 2022, 4:55pm

I feel like 1 or w more seasons it’s iced, especially if one of them is a SB appearance!