Sure, which is why I said it wasn’t a reason to NOT do it. It might still be viable. But the whole point was to do it as leverage so that you wouldn’t end up in a shit situation, and that could happen anyway. And it’s not like they’d be making bad money their rookie year in the league, if they were the top pick.
Pretty sure that to the overwhelming majority of these QBs going first overall is the dream. That’s what trumps other considerations. There aren’t a lot of small egos amongst star QBs.
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There is a difference between going to a bad football team, and a dysfunctional football team. Not every player would exercise that leverage, but the Manning’s look out for themselves. There is no way Arch Manning ends up in Carolina. They will see that dysfunction a mile away and want no part of it.
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My hunch is he’s not coming out for another 2-3 years anyway. He seems to love it in Austin, he’s loyal, and his uncles both exhausted their eligibility when they could have come out earlier (and this was back when they didn’t get money if they stuck around - though of course they certainly didn’t need it as much as most). Will Carolina have gone through another QB by then? It’s possible I suppose, but they’ll definitely have another young guy on the roster.
It’s just using him as a hypothetical.
The Mannings definitely believe in enjoying the college experience. Peyton was asked why he chose Tenneseee and said he learned from his brother’s experience and thought if he never played a down of football again, where would he want to go to college? It’s a good experience for a young person.
I also think there is value in sitting and “waiting your turn” in college football. Tom Brady speaks of this all the time. It built him into who he was as a competitor. Not many guys see football that way any more when they are able to bounce to different programs at will, but the Manning’s are built different.
Honestly, we are in brand new territory for top draft picks with the new economics of college football. Even if the college money situation was finalized, which it’s not, we really have no idea how this will affect the thinking of players and agents and NFL teams moving forward. “Staying in college” means something totally different than it used to. It’ll be fascinating to watch how it all plays out.
Detroit Lions fans getting frisky…
Remind me again how many playoff wins the Lions had between 1958 and 2023?
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I’ve thought this about the RB position in particular, though we are now seeing guys start to get paid. What’s the incentive as a top college RB to leave early if the NFL theory is play out your rookie deal then dump you? The RB position still pays in college ball.
And lack of leverage to do anything but go where you’re drafted. They both kinda compliment each other
I think the theory would be: your career’s short, get to that 2nd contract while you’re still as young as possible.
Usually if a back hits FA at 25/26, they get a pretty good 2nd contract. It’s very rare a guy gets straight up dumped, especially if he entered the league young. Now some get dumped cause they disappointed - I think that’s about to happen to Najee Harris next year - but even they often get 2nd contracts elsewhere. See Jacobs in Green Bay.
But you’re right that if it’s not a top guy, may as well stay in college. Judkins is getting paid a mint by Ohio State I’m sure, but once he’s a 3rd rounder or so? Decent money, but probably not as good.
Did I read about a senior highschool taking year off and play again in college ?
Some nil money might help but I’d be reluctant to take hits they’d hold against me as “use”
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In 2022… the Panthers had Baker Mayfield and Sam Darnold…
who are both starting QBs on 2-0 teams right now.
🫨:grimacing:
And what does Carolina have that TB and Minny don’t have?
The Bucs have Evans & Godwin.
The Vikings have Jefferson.
The Panthers had DJ Moore, but replaced him with DJ Chark for one season. Now, they pretty much have nothing except former Steeler Diontae Johnson.
I seriously doubt that
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