I think the Lions win 12
I think the Vikings win 11
I think the Packers win 10
I think the Bears win 8
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Lions win 13 (we’re better - MUCH better than last year)
Vikings - 10 - they’re approximately as good as last year, but with a tougher schedule
Packers and Bears net 2 wins each to tie for basement lead
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We are talking minimum 8 peat!
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If someone is going to take the division from us it will be when we have 300 injuries…
…like last year.
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I have petitioned the NFL to turn injuries off in 2025. We got this 
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I think the Lions will get 12-15 wins. I think they stay one of the best teams in the league. It will depend on the new coordinators though. I also hope GG is not a back-up. He needs to be the starter. No one else has proven anything yet. Way too early. It’s like the Houston thing. People thinking he’s the next Lawrence Taylor only to be injured, scratched, and cut.
I see GB the same, Chicago being much better, and Minny dropping. I still think Minny’s winning seasons are a fluke.
Detroit - 13 wins (1st)
Chicago - 11 wins (2nd) Chicago now has a chit load of talent
GB - 11 wins (3rd) Still not sold on Love.
Minny - 10 wins (4th). I still think 10 wins is a fluke.
Still the best division in football. Exciting stuff.
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Overall, Mark Carman didn’t think Williams had a good day on Wednesday. He thinks Williams has a “long way to go” before he can be successful in 2025.
“Caleb Williams, I was expecting, I was hoping that the Ben Johnson impact would be immediate. The impact is not immediate,” Carman said of Williams’ development under Johnson since OTAs started in April. “He’s throwing off his back foot. He’s running out of bounds. He’s doing weird sidearm throws to no one. He’s overshooting receivers. He’s doing it while they’re doing live drills.
“He’s doing it while they’re just doing random, just throwing drills. It was not a good day for 18. So, look, he’s going to be the Bears quarterback. There’s no doubt about that. But there’s also no doubt that I’m sure that Ben Johnson is seeing that there was a long way to go for him to be successful. And I don’t know, I just thought the Ben Johnson impact would be immediate. It is not immediate.”
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It’s all good they have the best OL in the North.
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So basically, he is doing everything he did in the regular season last year. Earlier during OTA’s, they showed a “WOW” throw from Williams and of course declared that the NFC North will have a big problem next year. I watched the clip, and it was literally Caleb rolling all the way to his right, throwing last second as he jumps out of bounds, and the receiver catches it falling out of bounds. That’s his bread and butter play. That’s it, that’s all he’s got. Those plays are not how you sustain drives, and eventually once the field shrinks it becomes an easy play to defend.
Edit from the actual article: “It’s interesting that one, what appeared to be his best throw of the entire day, when he hit DJ Moore deep down that left sideline, it was probably more like a deep out…Caleb came back towards where the coaches were. Ben Johnson was like, ‘You can’t do that.’
I did see Ben is working with Caleb on starting with his left foot forward and his footwork. That’s good, fundamentals are key, but that is not Caleb’s game. He is a freelancer. He wants to be left alone to do his thing and play off script. I am really interested to see how this goes because Ben being a task master and wanting everything on time is going to be a big problem. Caleb already got 2025 off to a fantastic start by greenlighting the book that says he wanted to duck the Bears and go to the Vikings, then also ducked the Chicago media to even talk about it. More than a few writers have called that as weak sauce.
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LOVE all of this.
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Bears start out with Vikings, Lions, Cowboys. 0-3 start is definitely within the realm of possibilities.
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But what QB is out there draft wise …26/27/28 that Ben would love to get and groom from a rookie standpoint
This division will not be as good this year. I’m not even sure Ben is going to help Chicago. He will try to train Caleb. But that will just make him pout like Fields did when they tried to train him. The key was to never draft him in the first place. And that ship has sailed.
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I’m a huge Lions fan but I believe that if JJ stays healthy, the Vikes win the NFC Norris. They have a “free” nearly $50m ( JJ makes $5m vs Goff $55m) and they’ve spent it all, almost. I know there are a ton of JJ haters/questioners here but I’ll defer to an HC that has a proven ability to get the most out of his QB over the armchair HC’s.
They have virtually the EXACT schedules other than one game in which the Lions play the Rams and the Vikes play the Falcons.
The Vikes coaching is really good, so is the Lions. It’s by far the best division in the NFL. The packers and bears could foreseeably win the division as well. Injuries will be the difference maker.
Lions will murder these people, brother!
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Ben must think he can fix him. Otherwise Caleb will get him fired. Hopefully it ends in disaster.
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Believe me. I hope like hell you’re 100 correct but I’m a LONG TIME Lions fan, I’m so used to losing I’m always overly paranoid.
a lot of ppl in that camp, but the numbers are dwindling. Lions win superbowl this year. 
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