We can rush four

We are one miraculous junk time McBride grab away from holding four strait opponents to under 20 and three of them under 15 or less. We just held an NFL team to less than ten points.

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Even the best defenses can get scored on, it’s the nature of the league. The Texans have hemorrhaged points for most of the first half of the year and they’re very talented. The Broncos have had some down games. We WILL have some games where we give up points too. Every team does.

We just needed to go from being a joke defense to not a joke defense, and imo we’ve done that in spades. Very little we do personnel-wise is going to make us become great… even the great defenses haven’t been great.

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If Kerby surprises folks with his recovery and we can continue to be a four man rush pass rush threat then that means on most pass plays we have one of Kerby or BB with considerable freedom to go get the ball. That may have always been the vision. We probably had it in 2024 until Hutch went down.

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Right, and I think that can take us to the ā€˜damn good defense’ level… but even damn good defenses have rough games. I’m mostly just trying to pre-argue against everyone coming in here when we DO have a bad game again calling for Shep’s job.

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If Moore comes on and Wonnum gets healthy than it’s the best top 6 DL of my Lions fan lifespan.

Our fan base is just so SOL coded on defense. They are going to have to prove it to a very high standard of evidence.

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I think in this case that has a lot to do with the trauma of the first month of this season. Context gets cast aside, nuance doesn’t matter.

I guess. We’ve mostly been terrible on defense for close to the entire 40 years that I’ve been a Lions fan. We’ve been either good or really good on offense in probably 20 of those seasons in which our D was dog shit.

Some of those Schwartz teams were legit

Did you see Tank Dell today?

I dont know how long Kerby will be out there but i think hes going to be himself for however many games he plays

It’s so encouraging that we can rush 4. FINALLY!

that’s what made me so mad earlier in year when we were getting torched. Just cover 3 seconds and we will be ok but we couldn’t cover 1.5 LOL.

Happy where we are at! Keep building on it. Fairly confident Brad will make a value trade to help us

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Absolutely. There were a few good defenses mixed in. But we have mostly watched bad Lions defenses for a long time.

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I saw the highlights and felt very happy for him.

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Man…..I love this forum. I really do. No joking.

ALSO

Let me list the QBs we have faced in this defensive turnaround.

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Jordan Love isn’t a good QB? This is the NFL. The defense has been terrific for four consecutive weeks against NFL teams. We outperformed each and every single week compared to how the opposing offenses have played throughout the year. The numbers are the numbers. 15ish PPG as opposed to 20. Everything I said it legitimate. But go ahead and simply lean into your priors. That seems to be where most people are taking it.

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I made him Cheesus, not Cheese-Ass. That’s pretty good.

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It’s weird man, everytime I’ve seen someone poo poo the Lions defensive turnaround and someone brings up the Packers game the conversation just dies lol

Twitter, here my group chat. Its like that just doesn’t count lol

So when would you buy in? If we hold Drake and the Pats down is that sufficient? I can’t imagine stopping this Bucs pass offense would do it. Would the next three including a statement on Turkey Day be enough?

I’m definitely not sold on us being a legit 15PPG defense but I’m starting to believe that we can be the second best Dan and Brad defense after 2024. Perhaps even better than the post Aidan injury version of 2024. One could argue that is kind of like winning the NIT, but if we are a middle of the pack D and we play up to our potential on O we absolutely can hoist the Lombardi.

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Stance taking 101. Ignore the stuff that flies in the face of your take, focus instead on the stuff that can be hammered by straw men, moving goalposts, etc… Rinse, wash, etc…

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But we’re consistently over performing as well. We held Arizona to six straight 3 and outs. Has anyone else done that this year? The Dolphins were a fake punt away from putting up 180 yards on offense in an NFL game. The Vikes only scored 15 points. We’ve been really good on defense the last month any way you slice it.

And today was without our one cornerback with any real pedigree.

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I do not think he is top 10

Mahomes
Allen
Burrow
Goff
Purdy
Lawrence
Williams
Lamar
Stroud
Dak and Love I guess would be the 11 in the top 10…

And I need to see Love win a big game