We are one miraculous junk time McBride grab away from holding four strait opponents to under 20 and three of them under 15 or less. We just held an NFL team to less than ten points.
Even the best defenses can get scored on, itās the nature of the league. The Texans have hemorrhaged points for most of the first half of the year and theyāre very talented. The Broncos have had some down games. We WILL have some games where we give up points too. Every team does.
We just needed to go from being a joke defense to not a joke defense, and imo weāve done that in spades. Very little we do personnel-wise is going to make us become great⦠even the great defenses havenāt been great.
If Kerby surprises folks with his recovery and we can continue to be a four man rush pass rush threat then that means on most pass plays we have one of Kerby or BB with considerable freedom to go get the ball. That may have always been the vision. We probably had it in 2024 until Hutch went down.
Right, and I think that can take us to the ādamn good defenseā level⦠but even damn good defenses have rough games. Iām mostly just trying to pre-argue against everyone coming in here when we DO have a bad game again calling for Shepās job.
If Moore comes on and Wonnum gets healthy than itās the best top 6 DL of my Lions fan lifespan.
Our fan base is just so SOL coded on defense. They are going to have to prove it to a very high standard of evidence.
I think in this case that has a lot to do with the trauma of the first month of this season. Context gets cast aside, nuance doesnāt matter.
I guess. Weāve mostly been terrible on defense for close to the entire 40 years that Iāve been a Lions fan. Weāve been either good or really good on offense in probably 20 of those seasons in which our D was dog shit.
Some of those Schwartz teams were legit
Did you see Tank Dell today?
I dont know how long Kerby will be out there but i think hes going to be himself for however many games he plays
Itās so encouraging that we can rush 4. FINALLY!
thatās what made me so mad earlier in year when we were getting torched. Just cover 3 seconds and we will be ok but we couldnāt cover 1.5 LOL.
Happy where we are at! Keep building on it. Fairly confident Brad will make a value trade to help us
Absolutely. There were a few good defenses mixed in. But we have mostly watched bad Lions defenses for a long time.
I saw the highlights and felt very happy for him.
Manā¦..I love this forum. I really do. No joking.
ALSO
Let me list the QBs we have faced in this defensive turnaround.




Jordan Love isnāt a good QB? This is the NFL. The defense has been terrific for four consecutive weeks against NFL teams. We outperformed each and every single week compared to how the opposing offenses have played throughout the year. The numbers are the numbers. 15ish PPG as opposed to 20. Everything I said it legitimate. But go ahead and simply lean into your priors. That seems to be where most people are taking it.
I made him Cheesus, not Cheese-Ass. Thatās pretty good.
Itās weird man, everytime Iāve seen someone poo poo the Lions defensive turnaround and someone brings up the Packers game the conversation just dies lol
Twitter, here my group chat. Its like that just doesnāt count lol
So when would you buy in? If we hold Drake and the Pats down is that sufficient? I canāt imagine stopping this Bucs pass offense would do it. Would the next three including a statement on Turkey Day be enough?
Iām definitely not sold on us being a legit 15PPG defense but Iām starting to believe that we can be the second best Dan and Brad defense after 2024. Perhaps even better than the post Aidan injury version of 2024. One could argue that is kind of like winning the NIT, but if we are a middle of the pack D and we play up to our potential on O we absolutely can hoist the Lombardi.
Stance taking 101. Ignore the stuff that flies in the face of your take, focus instead on the stuff that can be hammered by straw men, moving goalposts, etc⦠Rinse, wash, etcā¦
But weāre consistently over performing as well. We held Arizona to six straight 3 and outs. Has anyone else done that this year? The Dolphins were a fake punt away from putting up 180 yards on offense in an NFL game. The Vikes only scored 15 points. Weāve been really good on defense the last month any way you slice it.
And today was without our one cornerback with any real pedigree.
I do not think he is top 10
Mahomes
Allen
Burrow
Goff
Purdy
Lawrence
Williams
Lamar
Stroud
Dak and Love I guess would be the 11 in the top 10ā¦
And I need to see Love win a big game