I get that they got lost in the sauce and didn’t know how to end it. I get that they were written past the books, so George RR Martin’s writing couldn’t be translated into screen like the early seasons. My biggest disappointments come from the Denarys “heel turn” which they really needed some pro wrestling writing help here, and with how cucked Tyrion had become.
Tyrion in the early seasons was a master at playing the game. He drinks, and he knows things. He studied everyone and everything to find an edge and advantages. He knew how to minipulate people and things to get the results he wanted. By the end of the series, literally every decision he makes to advise Denarys is wrong. She even points out that she could believe he was trying to sabotage her. Then, at the very end after he leads Denarys to absolute ruin, they put him in charge of everything???
At the final counsel where they are all agreeing to unite, work together and rebuild their world, when it’s all said and everyone has agreed to being united. Then Sansa announces that the North will remain independent, and everyone is just cool with it. Then what was the point of the counsel at all?
It’s the 80s, this was a pretty big deal back then. Of course it wasn’t a shock to the audience, that wasn’t the point. But it’s a nod to the actor, which I have no problem with and it was obviously a shock to the characters. We just spent half of season 5 talking about feelings instead of saving the world. Did we need to hear about Steves nuggets? Jonathans and Nancys relationship issues? Hopper obsessing over Sarah? Dustin grieving Eddie? This show is as much about the characters growing up as it is about saving the world, so why begrudge Will his part in this?
That’s why it didn’t belong. It had nothing to do with the story, it was a bone for the actor to inject his personal life into the show. It was stupid. I also would bet that was done and recorded earlier on 2 years ago when people thought you HAD to make big announcements for everything.
Again, it’s not about what Will’s choice was. Robin had already had a reveal, and tells Will she told Steve and her and Steve remained close. It was the timing, and how they chose to end the episode right there like this was it, like this was the final key. Really, it had nothing to do with it.
I do agree the show was about the growth of the characters. That’s why the ending was so good. It shows how each of them grew up in their own way, and how life continued on. I loved the D&D ending, then showing the little sister running downstairs with a new group. When one door closes, another opens.
Take the first ending to the Thanksgiving episodes, where Will figures out his power runs both ways. THAT was an ending. That’s what Stranger Things was so good at.
One more comment on the show. It’s kind of funny because I grew up watching Winona Rider. I liked her in Beetlejuice and Edward Scissorhands. Most of her movies though, I couldn’t stand her. When I saw she was on Stranger Things in the beginning, I groaned and rolled my eyes. I will say this. She is absolutely outstanding in Stranger Things. Full props to her, that woman can act.
Game of Thrones, Breaking Bad, Sopranos, Better Call Saul, Peaky Blinders were all 5 star rating series for me.
Stranger Things was good, but not near the level of the ones I listed above. Probably a 3.5 or 4 star rating.
Lost almost ruined me from wanting to watch series type shows. It just got super annoying that they carried the mystery of what the ■■■■ is going on for way way too long. Eventually I just stopped watching. Maybe they eventually got to a resolution but my patience of being dragged along without any answers was just too much for me. It kind of reminded me of those Curse of Oak Island type shows. Just dragging you along for the sake of dragging you along.
Absolutely. You can only play the game of “What’s in the box? Oh, it’s another box” so many times before people don’t care about what’s inside the box anymore.
They show got lost because they killed so.many off. And they didn’t need to and carl didn’t like his contract. Now their might be a reboot of it. Other then the side show
I was really into the Walking Dead. At least you knew what was going on. I did eventually stop watching, but I think it was when they turned Rick into a little bitch boy and he started doing things that went completely against his character.
But basically you knew the gist of the story line. Surviving in a world of Zombies.
Lost seemed to never explain exactly what they heck is going on. Maybe part of that annoyance for me was that Lost was before streaming and you literally had to wait another week to see the next episode hoping they would finally explain what it was all about. And they just never did.
Stranger Things was a great show! The nostalgia was so fun. You can easily see how much the Duffer Bros took from many different movies from the 80’s like the Goonies. The problem with shows today is it takes years before a new season comes out. What the heck is that all about? These kids then aren’t kids anymore and it loses its charm.
This last season was filled with so much fluff. There’s like one episode to go and they’re wasting 10min on whether or not this couple should stay bf/gf as if anyone cares and it was so confusing like what am I even watching?
Like many shows the ending didn’t land, but still a great show.
Lost did eventually get to a resolution. It’s so mind-numbingly stupid I wish I had bailed on the series after the first couple seasons.
Stranger Things reminds me a lot of Lost. They both started as character-driven series where the fantastical elements helped explore their characters and their relationships. But when those shows became popular, the writers were compelled to maintain narrative momentum by expanding the mythology. Stories got retconned, contradictions started piling up, and the main characters were encased in impenetrable plot armor. The mythology overwhelmed any significant character development.
It’s funny, because for all the money Netflix poured into Stranger Things, the final scene with the kids playing DnD was, for me, the best of season five (and even that included a retcon that undermines the emotional impact).
Storytelling is the only reason we developed sophisticated languages and cultures. I suppose you think both Shakespeare and the great filmmakers of the 20th century to be silly as well?
Meanwhile, you think the NFL is super important. Guess what? It ain’t.
