Chicago Bears. how do you think they done in the draft and have they gotten better?

The Den
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I think the Bears are really going to struggle, there draft was very Millen-esq. Taking a TE at 10 and a WR in the 2nd, both of which were not needs nor BPA. I do like Loveland but I don’t see how you can play him and Kmet together, neither blocks worth a shit.

I think Ben is really going to struggle with the Bears,

  1. Bears are missing a lot on offense, Ben is use to having a great running game and a top o-line. Neither of which the Bears have

  2. As good as the Lions offense is we still have to go for it on 4th down a lot and run a lot of trick plays. Does Ben have the balls and the lockerroom to do that, I doubt it.

  3. I don’t see Ben being happy with Caleb long term and not making the reads and plays that he should.

If I was the Bears I would have tried to trade back and take Hampton and probably would have taken Ersery but I don’t know all of there needs.

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The Bears have done everything they can to help Caleb succeed. They addressed the oline via FA and trade. They hired the offensive whiz as head coach. They drafted 2 pass catchers in the top 40. It’s too bad that Caleb is just a garbage QB and Johnson is going to fail as a head coach. I don’t love the pick of Loveland that high but Burden is a great pick. The Bears on paper should be a playoff team but Caleb is a POS. They have had a good offseason.

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never liked Caleb from day one, they got to learn to get the line that can keep him upright and clean , AND get some real beef on defense-until they wake up and do that-they won’t do much. took us a while to get the right staff and build the right team also.

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thank you all for responding- I’ll be out running errands at least half of the day -so you can enjoy your time without me for a good while tomorrow…

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Bears have talent… It all comes down to one man…or woman… My bad …I shouldn’t assume his or her gender

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I’ll say they are like we were 4-5 years ago-and that is how long it will take them to be good * IF * they , get their freeagencies correct, get their trades and hires correct, and draft wisely…

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Ben is taking over a team much different than the team we were when Brad and Dan took over. We had a franchise QB with a high salary a couple of O Lineman and a bunch of crap. Not to mention a team in cap hell that could sign no FAs and you would have to pay them double their worth to come here. We saw what happened here.

Ben is taking over a group with a lot of talent but hardly a team. They have a very good secondary. After the draft a lot of offensive skill players. Thuney is an excellent OG. The key is can their O Line set a pocket and can Brad convince Caleb to stay in that pocket long enough to make his reads and get rid of the ball. The Bears had a ton of money to spend and they spent it like drunken sailors at a whorehouse. With a last place schedule I think they could win 10 games but I don’t see any sustained success long term.

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Tough to say…

Rarely do players bust out as rookies, especially skill players with questionable trenches.

We are now very similarly constructed teams on paper.

Sewell >>> Wright
Ratledge/Glasgow >> J Jackson
Ragnow >>> Dahlman
Mahogany/Frazier <<< Thuney
Decker == Braxton Jones

I think most would take our starters, depth, and Frank Haley

Ra >>> Burden
Jamo = DJ Moore
Patrick/Teslaa << Burden/Zacheas

It was tough not to give us the nod, but trying to look at this from a Bills or Rams fan as to who they’d rather have etc.

Laporta > Loveland

Gonna be real tough for Loveland to do what Sam did his first 2 years

Gibby/Monty >>> Swift/R Johnson

With the emergence of Braxton Jones and additions of Thuney, Dahlman, Loveland, and Burden there are some pieces there for sure.

That said- Braxton, Thuney and Wright are all in line for huge contracts and extensions.

Hutch/Husseinen >> Sweat/A Booker

Reader/Tyliek = Dexter/Billings

Alim/Levi = Jarrett/S Turner

Davenport/Paschal << Odeyingbo/D Hardy

Anzalone/Stuard < TJ Edwards

Campbell/Barnes > T Edmunds/Hypolite

Robertson << K Gordon

Arnold > T Stevenson

Reed < J Johnson

Branch > Byard

K Joseph > J Brisker

  • I’d say we have better depth and more top, top tier players. Overall pretty similar

So we have Goff and Queen Caleb… MCDC and his awkward younger brother Ben…

Bears are a 8 win team imo… Vikes will regress a lot.

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I don’t see the Bears winning 8 games this year, but the Lions aren’t winning 15 games next year either. One thing I hope people understand, this year’s schedule is a LOT harder. Last year’s schedule was cake. Detroit and Minnesota came down to the wire at 14 wins. There is no way that’s happening this year. The NFC North winner will have 11-12 wins, tops. Just like normal years in most divisions. The 2023 Lions went 12-5 and still went to the NFC Championship game (and should’ve won) but the 2024 NFC North finished 15 wins, 14 wins and 11 wins and went 0-3 in the playoffs. The fact is, playing the AFC and NFC South led to the cakiest of cake schedules. This year will be a lot tougher with playing the AFC North and NFC East. I also don’t see this as a negative. We will be more battle tested and ready for January football. This may sound strange, but part of me has always wondered if our cake schedule and winning blowout games helped contribute to our insane injury curse last year.

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Good post Storm. I could see where a cupcake schedule might have not had us as battle tested as a ‘normal’ year, but I don’t think it contributed to our injury curse. It was just really, really bad luck - especially the types of injuries we had. That, and the full speed, never take a play off, fly to the ball with your head on fire reckless abandon style we play on D. Not complaining, but that’s how we play, for better or worse.

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So this is 100% my own strange theory, I had a buddy mention this and I kind of applied this to last year and in it’s own way, it fits. This isn’t meant to be fact driven, it’s just kinda one of those “huh, that’s strange” things.

Here is the premise. During blowouts, players are actually more likely to get hurt than in close games. During close games, you are 100% locked in, focused and your play is calculated and measured. When it’s a blowout though, you are loose, relaxed and tend to get a little out of control. By getting a little too loose, you put your body in positions where it gets rolled up on different or you aren’t as prepared for contact and you get a serious injury.

Look at most of the Lions serious injuries last game, and they came in blowouts. Not all, but most. Starting with Hutch and Dallas, you had Anzalone in the Jags game, Leaf during the Colts game. Davis and McNeil were injured in the Buffalo game which was us getting beat instead of doing the beating. It’s not a foolproof argument, just more of one of those crazy coincidental observations.

I believe far more in that the Lions this year will be battle tested more, and yes I believe and pray that last year was a fluke, we paid off the injury piper and this year the bug finds it’s way somewhere else.

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The difference between Detroit’s roster year one of Dan Campbell and the bears roster year one under Ben aren’t even close to comparable. Chicago has a lot of talent on that team. They’re not going to be easy to beat.

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I think the bears will be a lot better then last year. They lost a ton of close games with a rookie qb.

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Great breakdown

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Interesting theory Storm. I’m the furthest thing from a medical expert, but on the surface, makes sense to me. Always interesting to hear others thoughts - would have never thought of that on my own.

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Taking a Tight End in the top 10 of the draft that runs a 4.7 was a huge reach and I mean huge. That was the WTF pick of the draft imo.

You would have thought that Ben would have been smart and built himself a running game.
Instead he over drafts a Tight End and then gets another WR.

Ben is a pretender, he’ll be just like Josh McDaniel.

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Maybe Ben is a secret agent. The Lions have sent him undercover to compromise the competition from within, and even convinced the competition to pay Ben $65 million for the privilege.

What a world we live in.

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I’m just curious to see if Ben is a good HC. For some reason, I feel like AG is gonna be a better coach. I loved what Ben did here, but there is more to being a HC than Xs and Os and it remains to be seen whether Ben has that people management side that is so important for NFL HCs. Then there is the question of what he has planned for the Bears offense. Is he just going to dip into the bag he helped (HELPED) create as a Lions coach? Or is he going to tear it all down and build an offense around Caleb like the Lions built an offense around Goff?

I do think they got better in the draft. A lot of weapons and they’ve fortified up front in both the draft and FA.

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well when you draft a “TE” , you just drafted another WR in my eyes,

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I’m not so certain, sure we had a “franchise” QB, but he was not so well liked by many fans and there was constent arguments over how good or poor a QB Stafford was. and beside that-the team floundered for decades under BS leadership, The Bears have -been floundering for what 3-4 decades now-sounds familiar, that’s why I said they are more like we used to be than not. and- I was talking (before) we ever had Dan or Holmes…