Comp pick questions

[RodWoodsonsACL]

So question here. We have mentioned before if we lose two minority coaches that we will get 3 comp picks in total instead of two for each.

My question is if this stacks with losses due to free agency?

Ex we gain a pick this year via FA and lose AG. Then we have two picks this year and one next?

Ex 2 same scenario except we lose AG and Agnew. Then 2 picks this year and 1 for each of the next two?

Just making sure I understand the churn.

[frm710]

I’m not positive I’m correct on this but I believe if we lose AG we get one this coming draft and then in 2026. IOW, not two comp picks in the same year.

If we lose Agnew in the same year as AG it is only one comp pick not two for Agnew.

[DeadStroke]

The Rooney Rule | NFL Football Operations.

If a team lost a minority executive or coach to another team, that team would receive a third-round compensatory pick for two years. If a team lost both a coach and personnel member, it would receive a third-round compensatory pick for three years.

[RodWoodsonsACL]

@DeadStroke So are those picks consecutive and do they stack with comp picks applied for free agency losses?

Thanks for the illumination.

[DeadStroke]

@RodWoodsonsACL

So are those picks consecutive and do they stack with comp picks applied for free agency losses?

Yep, definitely stack with UFA’s lost. There will be 32 comp picks for UFA’s lost, these minority hires are in addition to that 32. But I believe for instance we lose AG this year. We’d get a comp pick in 2025 and 2026. And if we lost Agnew next January, we’d have a comp pick for AG and Agnew in 2026 and one for Agnew in 2027.

[Jman]

Is it worth losing CD3 for a

4th round comp pick at best and Levi for a 5th round comp pick at best?

I’d say no. And I love bonus beans.

CD3
Levi
Barnes
Iffy

All have played nice roles on our defense.

But also, AG could try to poach these guys for his new squad.

Cominsky & Davenport & Moseley are the other 3 guys but I doubt they will get a contract that qualifies after their injuries past few seasons.

Zeitler is a must resign obviously Can’t lose him.

[Mr.Peabody]

@Jman

Is it worth losing CD3 for a

4th round comp pick at best and Levi for a 5th round comp pick at best?

I’d say no. And I love bonus beans.

One thing people don’t consider is the fact that comp beans are delayed a year. So we would not have the pick this offseason, it would be awarded next offseason. So we would be without the player or the pick for a year.

[frm710]

@Mr.Peabody

@Jman

Is it worth losing CD3 for a

4th round comp pick at best and Levi for a 5th round comp pick at best?

I’d say no. And I love bonus beans.

One thing people don’t consider is the fact that comp beans are delayed a year. So we would not have the pick this offseason, it would be awarded next offseason. So we would be without the player or the pick for a year.

For all comp picks, ie players and coaches/staff? I thought I had read losing AG now the comp picks would be for this year and next year.

[CuriousHusker]

@Mr.Peabody

One thing people don’t consider is the fact that comp beans are delayed a year. So we would not have the pick this offseason, it would be awarded next offseason. So we would be without the player or the pick for a year.

And the pursuit of magic beans limits you to a specific area on the free agency strategy spectrum.

[Jman]

@CuriousHusker

@Mr.Peabody

One thing people don’t consider is the fact that comp beans are delayed a year. So we would not have the pick this offseason, it would be awarded next offseason. So we would be without the player or the pick for a year.

And the pursuit of magic beans limits you to a specific area on the free agency strategy spectrum.

Both great points

If we get comp picks in the 3rd round for AG & Agnew
@frm710 they start in 2025 draft

This is a huge asset for us …picking at #32

This could help us leap up to pick 26,27,28 and got get OUR guy.

[CuriousHusker]

I think there is a sweet spot in which you have enough mid tier but qualifying talent flowing out in FA. That can then offset a big free agent or two and still be awarded some comp picks.

The key is having enough depth that is in demand league wide and being willing/able to fill out the back end in ways that don’t influence the comp pick formula.

[Mr.Peabody]

@Jman

@CuriousHusker

@Mr.Peabody

One thing people don’t consider is the fact that comp beans are delayed a year. So we would not have the pick this offseason, it would be awarded next offseason. So we would be without the player or the pick for a year.

And the pursuit of magic beans limits you to a specific area on the free agency strategy spectrum.

Both great points

If we get comp picks in the 3rd round for AG & Agnew
@frm710 they start in 2025 draft

This is a huge asset for us …picking at #32

This could help us leap up to pick 26,27,28 and got get OUR guy.

A little known rule about using the comp pick for minority coaches is you can only take players that are a minority at their position. And then if they get signed away in free agency years later, we get an extra comp pick for that as well.

[…jokes]

[Mr.Peabody]

@frm710

@Mr.Peabody

@Jman

Is it worth losing CD3 for a

4th round comp pick at best and Levi for a 5th round comp pick at best?

I’d say no. And I love bonus beans.

One thing people don’t consider is the fact that comp beans are delayed a year. So we would not have the pick this offseason, it would be awarded next offseason. So we would be without the player or the pick for a year.

For all comp picks, ie players and coaches/staff? I thought I had read losing AG now the comp picks would be for this year and next year.

Coaches comp picks are usable immediately. The player comp picks are delayed by a year because the NFL needs to see all of the other signings that are made by the team. Then it gets awarded the following offseason.

[frm710]

Thanks for the response, that makes sense.

[TouchdownMyPants]

@Jman

Is it worth losing CD3 for a

4th round comp pick at best and Levi for a 5th round comp pick at best?

I’d say no. And I love bonus beans

In a vacuum, no… But that, combined with their max value contract (what they’re going to be seeking in FA), then yes, it’s worth losing them to be able to lock down Kerby and Hutch long term.

[Davicus]

@TouchdownMyPants

In a vacuum, no… But that, combined with their max value contract (what they’re going to be seeking in FA), then yes, it’s worth losing them to be able to lock down Kerby and Hutch long term.

This is exactly it. The idea that we’re going to be able to retain everyone just isn’t real. No good team has ever been able to keep everyone together. A good or great player or two is going to come through here and have to leave. That’s just what happens when your team finds success.

[Jman]

@Mr.Peabody

A little known rule about using the comp pick for minority coaches is you can only take players that are a minority at their position. And then if they get signed away in free agency years later, we get an extra comp pick for that as well.

[…jokes]

Another reason why I wanted Cooper Dejean

16 comp picks for the ever extinct White CornerBack that leaves in free agency 2028

[CuriousHusker]

Ultimately, yes. But there are levers to pull to push a pinch more austerity into the future allowing for one or two extra guys now. We’re not going to go full Mickey Loomis but the Eagles regularly utilize a more measured version of that approach, and being that they are likely our primary rivals for Conference championships I’d imagine we’d entertain doing so to keep pace.

[Thedunker]

They are 1 a year at the end of the third round after comp picks.