Current Cap, Raymond restructure, Dorsey/Yeboah contract details

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Kahlil Dorsey signed a $3.3M/2yr contract.

Kenny Yeboah signed a veteran minimum contract that qualifies for veteran salary benefit, with $482,500 guaranteed.

Kalif Raymond agreed to a restructure reducing his total 2025 compensation by $900K. As a result, he received a $1.5M signing bonus, $160K workout bonus, a $510K per game roster bonus & a base salary of $1.83M.

This should put us through UFA, with all the above, it puts us:

  • Currently at $43M under the cap
  • Budgeting for draft picks $41.2M under the cap
  • Budgeting $18M for 53man, PS and in-season $23M under the cap

We are spending $312M APY on the current roster, $33M more than the base cap, we are starting to borrow from the future to field our current team, but have a long way to go before catching up to the Eagles.

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Raymond is still showing 6.95m for me. Hasn’t updated yet. Idk why.

So is his cap hit 6.05 for 2025? Or am i missing something

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@DeadStroke
Heres what i got.

Current dead $21.4m

So usable cap ~ $285m
51 - $244m
Pre season space ~$41m

Projected 53 - ~$244.5m
Cut downs - ~4m
Full season PS ~$5m
Regular season space
~32m

But there will be injuries.
And based on nfl and lions trends.
Im projecting $21.5m
(That includes elevations from the practice squad on game day)
Lions have averaged about 7% of the cap used for IR/Elevations

So im looking at only about $10.5m in total cap space for the season.

However that will changed once they extend a few more players and maybe even restructure a couple?

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Interesting Dorsey gets two years. It’s still a very cuttable contract at any time, but interesting all the same.

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Yea. Dorsey probably said “im not going anywhere, can we just do vet min for 2 years?”

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And $300,000 guaranteed is more than Skipper, O’Connor and Craig Reynolds got combined.

Dorsey is a core special teamer… So he likely makes the team.

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Absolutely and all phases of ST (excluding XP and Fg) but he does returns as well as a gunner.

Returning alone makes him valuable. He was Returner 2 last year.
1 Raymond.
2 Dorsey
3 Craig
4 Vaki

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Nobody stepped up as the gunner after he got injured. He was playing at a pro bowl level all season long. Fipp always goes out of his way to talk about how valuable Dorsey is to the unit.

I’m hoping he makes a full recovery. We never got details where the break was. If it’s close yo the ankle he may never get his speed back and would definitely be worse at CB.

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$21.5M is way too high, it doesn’t matter who’s salary is on IR, it matters what their replacements salary is and only for the games missed. Virtually all in-season replacement players are for a vet min. Also many players (late draft picks, some vet min guys) have a split salary in which they won’t cost the full salary for the year, so you gain back cap space for those players as well. By my count, inn 2024, 16 players spent spent time on IR, so roughly $1M per player * the amount of weeks on IR. Comisky would be a full Million, the others would be prorated based on how long a player was on IR ($1M/18 * weeks on IR).

That’s too high, the only cap hits for players cut at cut downs, is guaranteed salary and we virtually never cut someone with guaranteed salary (except UDFA’s). Looking at 2024, it looks like less than $1M ($700K from guaranteed base for UDFA’s) was added to dead cap at cut downs in 2024.

That’s after his restructure. Before his restructure, he was due $4.9M in cash and had cap charges of $6,376,471 in 2025 and $1,550,000 in 2026. After restructure, he is due $4M in cash and has a $6.95M cap charge for 2025 and -0- for 2026, the $1.55M that was allocated to 2026 accelerated to 2025.

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Raymond. Makes sense. Ill have to remove his dead cap for 2026.

The IR. Ill have to more research. Chop that number down then. Because your right. I was calculating all the IR money not the elevation money.

And cuts - yup found my error. I was cutting the Draft picks. Oops.

So my new numbers.
53 -$244m
Cuts ~0.5m
Lets say $8m (2.5%) just as a place holder till i do some calculations.

So im at $28m left in space

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I tell you what… I am not really rooting for anyone more than Dorsey… dude just cant catch a break but always busts his ass for us when he is available.

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It reconciles too, $6,376,471 + $1,550,000 - $900,000 - $76,471 (Per game increase $260,000 * 5/17).

I have $39M with top 53 contracts (including draft picks).
PS $5M
Elevation $1.5M
Cuts 0.5M
In-season $9M

Still coming out around $23M.

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He is used on punt an kicks so even as WR4 or 5 its a fair price.

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Are you talking about Ramond the WR or Dorsey the CB?

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raymond returns

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What is the weird vet cap reduction rule that Craig Reynolds is eligible for this year? I hear we have 3 cheap min vets that only count like half against the cap. What is that rule called again?

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Well it’s not half and it’s based on the number of seasons played. It’s called a Veteran Salary Benefit and for players that qualify, the NFLPA will pay either $140K or $225K of a players salary. We have 10 players that currently qualify the the reduction in cap cost.

  • Pat O’Connor
  • Kenny Yeboah
  • Dan Skipper
  • Avonte Maddox
  • Al-Quadin Muhammad
  • Craig Reynolds
  • Kyle Allen
  • Zeke Turner
  • Rock Ya-Sin
  • Anthony Pittman

The NFL has minimum salaries based on the number of credited seasons a player has earned. For 2025, it’s as follows:

  • 0 - $840,000
  • 1 - $960,000
  • 2 - $1,030,000
  • 3 - $1,100,000
  • 4-6 - $1,170,000
  • 7+ - $1,255,000

The Veteran Salary Benefit is a benefit for players so that they don’t get priced out of a spot on the roster just because their NFL minimum salary is more than less experienced players NFL minimum salary. So for players with 4 or more credited seasons, that are earning their minimum salary and don’t have more than $167,500 of additional compensation, the NFLPA pays the portion of a players salary that is in excess of a player with two credited season. So if a player qualifies for the VSB and the player has 5 credited seasons, the NFLPA will pay $140,000 ($1,170,000 - $1,030,000) of the players salary and the team is only responsible for $1,030,000 (plus any additional comp up to $167,500). If a player has 9 credited seasons, the same rule would apply, the team is responsible for $1,030,000 and the NFLPA pays the other $225,000.

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