Detroit Lions Upcoming FA/ Extension Talks

I know its still prime season but these dates are coming fast.

2/18/25 - Franchise Tag Start
2/21/25 - 2025 NFL Salary Cap announcement
3/4/25 - Franchise Tag End
3/10/25 - Free Agency
4/18/25 - RFA deadline
4/23/25 - ERFA Deadline
5/1/25 - 5th Year Option Deadline

Heres the Lions that are going to be FAs the next 2 years. (Plus hutch and williams) and expected contract.

Hutch 5th year option is only $22.6m
Jamo is only $16.2m

Both seam like no brainers

And heres a chart of the current snd expected markets

So who are you hoping to keep. And any contact projections seam off?

Projected cap for
2025 is $270+
2026 is $300+

Projected Preseason cap space ~$45m
Projected in season cap space $8m

They’re gonna extend Hutch this offseason… $35 million/year. Kerby too, $22 million/year. I expect most of the role players to be back on 1-2 year deals… Barnes, Iffy, Patrick, Reynolds, Skip, Awosika

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Hutch will be a 40m/y for 5 years plus his 11.37m for 2025 and 22.61m for 2026

Thats $33m for the next 7 years (signed through 2031.

Kerby yea likely around that.

Im worried Barns and Iffy might price them selfs out of a contract. Hoping they are team players BUT.

Barns could likely get $6+m on the open market.
Iffy could EASILY get $10m+

Iffy is a backup box safety who barely plays football inbetween his career of rehabbing injuries.

If he plays a full year in 25? Sure, then he gets paid. $10m this offseason is crack sauce.

Same for Levi etc. Any other backup 3 tech with 4 career sacks in 9 career starts in the league getting $18m a year? No?

Same w Pascal. He is a try hard guy. Marinelli would start him. Thats about it.

Love your work, dont get me wrong. Love.

Reality impacts mathing though.

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I hear ya. But if any of those guys wernt injured. They would be making 2-3x my projections. Its already a discount. And sure maybe the lions wont extended them for that much. But if they hit the open market. Yea they could get that

And NFL average for a backup saftey is over $5m and iffy i would argue is better than most of those guys.

Backup DT is over $10m

Backup DE is over $12m

I mean look how much they gave comish. Unproven guy. $4m! Have to at least double that for paschal and levi.

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Maybe Hutch getting injured save us a few bucks… If he had 20-25 sacks, which was happening for sure. He could almost ask for a blank check. He still leads the Lions in sacks, lol and hasn’t played in 3 months

He’s played like 5 good games in his four year career.

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He wasn’t “unproven”. He had a really good 2022 season with us before earning that extension.

I wouldn’t be surprised if Onwuzurike was in that ball park.

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Yea Iffy has played 800 snaps his entire career…I’m not sure he gets anything more than a 1 year prove it deal with incentives.

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OP, you also have Kingsley Eguakun, who has never been active for an NFL game, projected to make $5M on a potential “extension”.

Just because the “average” player makes a certain amount doesn’t mean that every player on our roster is going to be in a certain ballpark based off of that. Besides, I’m almost certain that the median price is lower than the mean price, which it looks like you’re probably using here.

Melifonwu, Paschal, and Onwuzurike are a few of manu guys on that list who won’t be making median salary, let alone mean salary. They just haven’t proven enough as NFL players to get that kind of offer.

And then, I question what a guy like Amik Robertson has done here to damn near double his AAV from $4.625M to your projected $8M.

And lastly, does the OP say that Kalif Raymond is going to be making $20M AAV on an extension???

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If Hutch signs this offseason there is a 0% chance he gets 40mil. Bosa currently blows away the market at 34mil AAV. Next highest is only 28mil AAV. Hutch is also coming off a broken leg, and no offense to him, he doesn’t have the resume of a Nick Bosa yet.

Even if he would have stayed healthy I couldn’t see him reaching 40mil. I see him signing this offseason at 32-35mil AAV. I think they give him just a little more than Bosa because he is a franchise cornerstone and does everything right, but no higher than 35mil AAV. Now if he waits until next offseason, and has a DPOY season then that’s a different story.

I personally think we wait another offseason on Kerby as his market can’t get much higher coming off a season he leads the league in picks. If he does it again next season, then he still gets tops of the safety market money which will be around 22mil.

No team is giving Melifonwu a multi year deal at 10mil AAV. Maybe he gets 1 year, 10mil with incentives, but I don’t see that happening either.

Barnes is interesting. I think he was looking at a multi year deal north of 10mil AAV before injury. With the injury I could see him coming back on the cheap on like a 1 year 5 mil deal.

Levi is another guy who will not get paid. He had chronic back issues early in his career and although he has stayed healthy recently, he has not made a big impact. He has 3.5 career sacks. I do think he is still working his way back into form and could really break out next year. I would love him back on a cheap short term deal. I’d give him 2 years 12mil. I think that’s reasonable. I could see another team overpay in the 8-10 range that see the potential upside.

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Amik has been solid. I am more than happy with what he has given them, and I do think he could be in line for a 8mil+ deal in 2026 if he has another solid season. I don’t believe he comes back here though.

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Sorry he was a typo. Definitely $1m league minimum.

As for Iffy, Levi, Pachal Barns. Home grown draft picks. Brad has treated them right.

That “average” means average level of player not average of total salary.

Ie the 20-40th highest paid players at that position. (And that excludes rookie contracts)

Meaning that there are ~30 players better than them on the field at that position.

So say Levi and Paschal. The 40th highest paid DE currently is about a 4% cap hit.
Say you cut that to 3.5% thats still roughly $10m AAV! So there will be ~50 players either on rookie deals or paid higher than them.

Unless you think all those guys are just going to take a 1-2 year prove it deal.

Amik is currently a ~2% cap hit. By 2026 it will be roughly 7.5m aav for that same exact cap hit%

Look at what decker got.
He went from 15-20m aav. But his % of the cap went DOWN.

Its just because the cap keeps shooting up

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Personally I try and re-up Jamo. We can’t let him go, he’s incredibly important to our offense. There’s two reasons the middle of the field is always open for us despite every team we play knowing it’s Goff’s favorite spot to throw the ball: 1) our running game, pulling the LBs up, and 2) Jamo, keeping the safeties deep. He’s integral to what we do.

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If we could sign him to a Nico Collins type extension, that would be amazing. I just think that might not be on the table since he’s breaking out before the extension.

Of note in his 2 game suspension, we scored 76 points. I love Jamo but when he was suspended last year and this year the offense was still humming. I would love to extend him though.

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The sooner the better.

Say they do it this offseason.

$5.6m for 2025
$16.2m for 2026
Then a 4 year 35aav contract .
Thats $27m aav for 6 years.

Vs if they wait till hes a FA.
It could end up being $40m aav

I do believe his value will never be lower than it is this offseason. He has a chance to evolve into one of the best WRs in the league and command 35mil+ by the time his 5th year option runs out.

He obviously does not have a ton of career stats. He should barely get his first 1,000 yard receiving season this year. You can tell he has made a huge leap this year though, and is only getting better. You also have to consider both suspensions and there has to be some concern over the maturity issues coming back after he gets paid.

I personally believe in the kid though and think he has grown beyond that. I’d offer him 4 year extension, 100mil in new money. Give him a nice chunk up front and I think he would be happy.

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I just don’t get it, why do you think he is worth that type of cash? That’s what Justin Jefferson is making and he is the best WR in the league. Jamo doesn’t even have a case for 30mil yet. I do think he will next offseason if he waits though.

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