Did Miss Cleo give away Caleb Williams at birth?

Nope.

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https://x.com/FBGreatMoments/status/1872644246928277598

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https://x.com/scottbarrettdfb/status/1872797674254348489?s=46

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“Apparently, Justin Fields wasn’t the problem in Chicago.”

Now, who on this board could have been saying that the entire time he was there??

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Fixed

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Here’s your reminder that the Bears passed on Marvin Harrison, Brock Bowers, and a 2025 1st round pick to trade Justin Fields for a 6th and take Caleb/Odunze.

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Yep, that is why he wasn’t the only problem, but Kevin Warren deserves it.

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Fields stinks too. But at least Fields could run. He had one skillset. Caleb just runs around like a chicken with his head cut off and launches up prayers. You can see how visibly frustrated his skill players are every game. You run a great route, get open and he refuses to throw the ball. Then it turns into a scramble drill and he gets sacked. Happens over and over

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Yep, the lack of eye contact with their ‘leader’ is very telling. The linemen don’t like him, the receivers don’t like him. Look at the way players look at their QB in the huddle, it will tell you everything you need to know.

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Caleb’s body language doesn’t look good either. Looks kinda defeated already. He’s still a rookie so anything is possible but sometimes getting thrown into the fire early can destroy a young player. Whoever they hire has a tough road to try to fix him.

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Apparently it was the Front Office’s fault that neither Fields or Caleb can complete passes to wide open receivers.

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This will be a long post, so feel free to skip to the end for a TL;DR summary

This is why I’ve said, Caleb is a drama queen. If you’ve noticed, a LOT of sports media keeps showing him throwing his head back, or slumping over on the bench, or laying on the ground with his arms out. Why is that happening? Because he loves seeing himself on tv. He loves the fact that the talking heads are seeing this and showing “poor Caleb, he is getting beat up, this is what Chicago does” etc. You know what they aren’t saying? “Caleb is doing nothing to help his team.”

This thread is right, it wasn’t all Justin Field’s fault. So here’s another one for you. Remember the Thanksgiving game, where the Bears ran the clock out on themselves and left themselves throwing a desperation pass instead of being in position to kick a game tying FG and force OT? It was ALL Eberflus’s fault! Fire that man! He is holding Caleb back!

Now, fast forward one month. Literally the same exact situation is occurring. Bears have the ball with 3 minutes left down 3, so a FG forces OT. Caleb completes one of his random miracle toss ups when DJ Moore bails him out and gets a first down on 4th and 6th. The very next play, Caleb fumbles the snap and gets sacked. 2nd and 15 at the 2 minute warning. Caleb throws his 34th screen pass of the day which gets tipped, and causes DJ Moore to get tackled in bounds for a monsterous 1 yard gain. Caleb huddles the team, and takes his sweet ass time getting the play called and getting to the line. Even Al Michaels said “He is taking a ton of time here.” (Sound familiar?) Ball gets snapped with 3 seconds left on the play clock, and 1:15 on the game clock.
Caleb then does his usual scramble routine, runs around and finally chucks another miracle pass that Odunze makes a hell of a catch on for about a 20 yard gain. Ball is now on on the Seattle’s 40yd line, Caleb again takes his sweet time getting to the line and the ball is snapped with 16 seconds left on the play clock and 37 seconds on the game clock. Caleb gets good protection (see, it’s possible) holds the ball for an eternity, and then chucks it out of bounds to stop the clock at 31 seconds. Al Michaels again comments on how eerily similar this is to Thanksgiving.
Chicago then takes forever just to get lined up, and is forced to call a timeout on themselves on a stopped clock. Williams throws a hissy fit, but there was 1 second left on the clock when the timeout was called, and Williams hadn’t even finished reading the defense yet. This was a certain delay of game if the timeout isn’t called by Brown.
2nd and 10, 31 seconds left. Caleb throws an absolutely awful ball on a sideline route to Odunze who has zero chance to catch the ball inbounds.
3rd and 10, 26 seconds left on the clock. Caleb snaps the ball with 1 second left on the play clock (making it easy for the defense to know when to rush) and throws another godawful pass well downfield that only Seattle defenders were remotely close to. Incomplete pass.
Now, it’s 4th and 10 with 20 seconds left. As Tom Grossi said in his chat, the ball is still on your own 40 yard line, and you have a time out left. You literally did nothing to help your kicker get any yards to try to kick a game tying FG. You have no choice but to go for it.
Chicago lines up, Seattle calls timeout to talk over the defense. So Chicago also has a chance to talk about what play to run. Williams spends the timeout bitching to his RB and shaking his head with his hands on his hips, clear signs of a winning play upcoming.
Caleb snaps the ball with 11 seconds on the play clock.(progress?) Seattle sends another blitz, Williams freezes, lets the blitzer get on top of him and throws up a prayer ball that gets partially tipped and Seattle intercepts it. Ball had zero chance to reach the end zone. Game over.

Literally, the exact same ending and result as the Thanksgiving game. Zero chance for your kicker to kick a game tying FG and a timeout left in the pocket to make that happen. How can this happen two times in a month?

The answer is, Caleb Williams is ass. As a quarterback, you have to know how to put your team in the best position to win. You have to have situational awareness and give your team a chance. Caleb can’t do that. Caleb only knows how to run plays that will make Caleb look good. It’s hero ball, x10. In both the Lions game and Seahawks game, Caleb turned down chances to let the FG kicker tie the game, and instead purposely set things up so he could throw a game winning TD or bust. Now Chicago is slowly realizing, bust is what they got.

2 last points. @BigNatty said that Caleb is a guy ruled by his emotions. I can see that. When Caleb makes a big play, he gets super hyper and excited and becomes even more erratic. When things aren’t going good, he pouts, whines, slumps over and basically shows his team he has no belief in them or what is happening. If I am wrong here Natty, feel free to correct me, but that’s how I understood what you wrote.

Second point, one of the talking heads made this comment about his concerns with Caleb Williams. He said if you look at Bo Nix, Drake Maye and even Jayden Daniels, all of those guys have had rookie moments but they have shown improvements as the season went on. Caleb Williams has not. He is making the same plays and decisions he did at the beginning of the year, and making the same mistakes over and over again. @socko in another thread said it best. Bryce Young who most wrote off as an early bust, looked nothing like the QB he looked at while at Alabama. Now he is starting to put things together. However, Caleb Williams looks exactly like the USC QB in the NFL. The Bears are indeed f-ed.

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Yup… As a leader, are you the grounding presence that influences the energy of the game?
… Or are you influenced by everything that goes on around you, and you are the influenced energy?

The best leaders influence.

Caleb is knocked off center very easily.

That is quite the essay. @StormGuyNovi

For those with short attention spans he said Caleb sucks :smiley:

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I know! :rofl:
Irony says, I am much more laconic and direct on most subjects. I like short and sweet. The books come out when I want someone to know the context. I blame my love of history for that. @BigNatty would have a field day analyzing me.

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I think I have seen what the issue is. I have spotted Caleb wearing his hat backwards. As a QB it is literally impossible to be successful in the NFL wearing a backwards baseball cap. Its science.

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Checks out :wink:

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Is that chew in his sock?

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Surrre, you couldn’t have posted this BEFORE I wrote my post out?? :rage:

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And he’s lazy and doesn’t shave. Those are telling signs for a QB’s success.

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