Here’s where I’m at with Goff

Goff is a superbowl QB. He has the 2nd fastest pass release in the NFL and is why he rarely takes a sack. Today he spread the ball among 7 different receivers. Yet everyone wants the shiny new object.

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The great thing about Goff finishing the season strong, assuming he does, it takes the pressure off having to reach for a QB early.

I don’t think anyone disagrees that, given the teams strengths now, Anderson or Carter would be a much bigger net positive than a young QB

I’d actually like to draft Bijan with the second first, I’m normally against taking a first round RB but I love this balanced attack and Goff and Bijan could be the new Goff and Gurley. You don’t often come across 220 lb RBs who can move laterally, break tackles, run advanced routes and block well

We have a great offensive mind in Johnson. Lets goooo

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And next week it will be 8. Welcome to the NFL, Jamo.

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I don’t know about that. I think Young has superstar potential. I don’t know that we even have a spot for Anderson with Houston looking so good. And 1 game from Carter was very exciting but it does make me ask why he took all those other games off. I know the difference between a guy injured and a guy not trying very hard.

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This!!!

So weird that Brady, Rodgers, Stafford have somehow gotten passes this year.

It seems like most have finally turned on Russ, and oddly enough the running QB is hurt again in Baltimore. My guess is the same will be the case for Fields again in the next 1-2 weeks…

Brock Purdy just bear Tua. Lol

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I pride myself on trying to speak the truth… and Goff is way better than I ever expected. I was wrong for a lot of what I said. Give him weapons and he’s very good.

Compare year 7 Stafford to year 7 Goff. The Trade is looking better and better…each passing moment.

Did you know… Goff’s last 16 starts as a Lion, he’s 8-8.

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Same page.

Bryce Young will not wins as many nfl games in his career, as Goff already has. Mark my words.

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I wouldn’t pass on Anderson for Houston just yet. I also really like Young but let’s see what his measurables are at the combine. I’m not sure he can hold up to the NFL

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I want to see him complete passes in a game script where throwing the ball is the only option.

That’s the only thing that makes me nervous with him, in must pass situations I feel like he throws up on himself.

No matter how great your defense is you will eventually have to throw to win when the other team knows what’s coming

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You had to appreciate the 41 yarder to Chark. That was a dime!

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New guy here. JG16 is my guy. Last year started off on a bad note, injuries, switching the O-line around, Goff got creamed a ton. He tries to over compensate and makes mistakes.

This season with an OC like Ben Johnson, he’s learned how to temper that side of Goff. The last 3 games he’s look calm, cool, and collected. Hell, today he actually had some decent moves when no play was available to avoid a tackle, and got the ball back to the line of scrimmage to avoid taking a loss for yards.

Replacing him for next year is pointless. No matter how good the defense has been playing, we are badly lacking at cornerback. Put those 2 first round picks with a CB and defensive lineman, and we shore up a lot of holes.

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Let me be the first to welcome you to the board.
A lot of us have been hanging out together (on here) for over 10 years. Some since the forum started.
You’ll have to excuse us grizzled old farts, we’ve been arguing football since the turn of the century.
Then there are the newbies. They’ve only been around a few years.
New blood…er, friends, are always welcome.:rofl:
Seriously, I hope you will enjoy the banter and become a regular.
Btw, this is the “original”, “Den”.

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One major thing to remember though about this is Ben Johnson is ALREADY now listed as a young fast rising up and coming HC candidate. If Goff continues this play and the offense keeps producing as it has for the rest of the season he MAY not be around next year.

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He was the #1 pick and has been starting in the league since 2016. People who actual follow the game know what he is. He doesn’t need to string any other games together to prove anything to you lol This is silly.

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While I really like Bryce Young I simply can’t see him holding up in the NFL. Whatever about his height, his frame is just too slight.

I think Goff has played his way into being the starter in 2023 - i think he is an above average starter who has improved a lot compared to the low confidence statue reading plays off his wrist we had for the first half of last season.

I’m starting to think that it might be worth taking a flier on someone like Anthony Richardson if he is there on day 2 and let him sit for a year or two

As opposed to all the NFL QBs who thrive on bad teams w/bad O-lines?

:roll_eyes:

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Campbell isnt going to sign off on building this culture…this creation, then dumping the leader of it and grafting in an unknown control unit, hoping it turns out better. The more likely result is something Abby Normal happens, or to say otherwise, SOL.

Gene Wilder Nonsense GIF by MOODMAN

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Really?

I promise you, when the draft season kicks off and the team’s needs are listed, QB will be on many of the national outlet’s lists. Whatever our good feelings are today, Goff is still seen as a limiting component to the offense by many outsiders and some of our own beat writers.

That pretty much sums up where I’m at. Goff is fine for where we are at right now. I don’t think we should end the search for a franchise QB though. But having said that…with Goff I feel like the worse we’ll be (as long was we have Johnson) is Titan-ish or 49ers-ish. There are worse things for sure.

To make me a believer, Goff is going to have make some throws. He’s going to have win some games with his arm when things aren’t going right. Everything went perfectly for Goff yesterday. He was what everybody always said he was. A guy who was super good when you give him weapons and protection. Now lets see if he can take the next step.

I will also tip my hat to Brad Holmes who has seemingly understood what Goff was from the word go and never tried to pretend he was more than he was - and credit to him and the coaches for tailoring a system to Goff’s strengths. They knew what they had and they knew what sort of offense he would thrive in.

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