Kansas City loses the Chiefs

Per usual all of the BS about an historic and iconic venue with a game day experience like no other goes right out the window as soon as some a-hole politician offers to screw over their own taxpayers in order to land a team. Kansas agreed to front $2.4 billion for a stadium with the Cun- I mean Hunts contributing $600 million. Though the Hunts have also pledged $1 billion for vaguely defined “economic development” around their new football palace. Whatever the hell that means.

Well Kansas, enjoy the one Super Bowl you will get in return for a fortune that could have been far better used. And I do mean one Super Bowl. Detroit built an absolute gem of a stadium in the heart of a football-obsessed city and still only got one Super Bowl because we get snow in February. Can’t take the risk that the swarm of private jets might get delayed by the weather!

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The Chiefs and Mahomes winning has really hid how dogshit of an owner the hunts are

constantly low on the NFLPA report cards, especially for the locker rooms, and now they are leaving Arrowhead for a Domed Stadium, prolly one of the most iconic stadiums in the NFL?

a travesty.

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Uhhhh I think they are moving maybe 5 miles away no? KC MO to KC KC

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billionaires always need more billions, at any cost.

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Good point!
3.6 miles to be exact

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The distance is trivial, but go ask Missouri if having the team cross state lines means anything to them.

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My wife is from the Kansas suburbs so my opinion is probably a little different than the people from Missouri but I don’t see what the big deal is here.

Arrowhead is older than the Silverdome was. The move between Arrowhead and the new stadium willl probably be 23.5 miles (if the new stadium is built at Legends at Village West) or 14.4 miles (if the new stadium is built on the site of the former Indian Springs Mall).

This is a shorter distance than the Silverdome to Ford Field move or the Bears proposed move from Soldier Field to Arlington Heights.

I get that Missouri is upset the Chiefs are leaving the state but they’re not leaving the metro area. They’re simply moving from one (semi-urban) location to another (semi-urban) location and getting a domed stadium but Kansas City isn’t losing the Chiefs anymore than Cleveland is losing the Browns (if they move to Brook Park) or Chicago is losing the Bears (if they move to Arlington Heights or NW Indiana).

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Damn those pesky people who own something and choose to alter it however they see fit… Go touch grass

They were originally from Dallas. Sharing the Cotton Bowl with the Cowboys. The original Texans.

Yes Texas had 3 teams from 1960-1963.

In fact the Oilers and Texans won 5/10 of the AFL championships.

If you really want to move teams back to where they belong it would be a mess.

The Lions would be in (near) Cincinnati

The New York Giants would be in Cleveland

Rams would be in Cleveland

Titans in Houston

Cardinals would be in Chicago

Bears would be in New Jersey

Commanders would be in Boston

The list goes on and on

Yes, it’s this entirely. They are literally moving across town. Jackson County (where Kansas City Missouri is) is a mess. The Chiefs are moving, Royals soon to be moving and Lockton (major employer in this area) is moving their HQ over to the Kansas side. Big money is leaving Kansas City because it’s tired of the total mismanagement of a lot of the local politics here.

If anything, this move makes the Chiefs even more centrally located for the Kansas City metro region. It basically is moving everything 20 minutes west. The Legends area they are looking at has been a very big development area, and already has the Kansas racetrack and Hollywood Casino very close by. There is a ton of open room out there and easy access to highways. It also moves the Chiefs closer to Lawrence and Topeka.

Arrowhead was a fantastic sporting location and I am happy to have been able to visit it a few times. I was really not liking the idea of the Royals or Chiefs moving downtown, that would have been stupid. Kansas City downtown infrastructure is nowhere near sufficient to handle that kind of traffic volume.

To put it in terms for local Michigan people, this is kind of comparable where a lot of Detroit city companies moved to the suburbs to get away from the disaster that Detroit city had become. Instead of crossing 8 Mile to go from Wayne to Oakland County, the Chiefs are crossing State Line Road to go from Missouri to Kansas.

The real reason the State of Missouri is upset is because they’ve been saying that this was going to happen for years, but KC leadership has been digging it’s head in the sand and refusing to address it’s problems. Now it’s happening, and they are panicking.

I get the dome actually. Remember the.game a few years ago that it was -25 wind chill?

Been on the field at Arrowhead and Kaufmann when empty. Very eerie. Both are great venues and both are old old old.

A retractable dome at a minimum is a MUST for northern stadiums because of events. Go look at all the events at Ford Field out side of the 10 NFL games and 4 NCAA games a year. They can do those because of it being indoors.

And it makes sense where they are moving to

Its in the entertainment district.

Near the big shopping mall and hotels

Near the MLS stadium

Near the nascar track

Thats what you have to do.

Either in a Downtown area with all the other stadiums like Philly and Detroit and Cleveland.

Or

In the suburbs with a sports and entertainment district. Like LA, Dallas and now KC.

Yep, bingo. The new Arrowhead is being built as a dome or a removable roof strictly because it will become a multi use facility. The only thing I don’t really like what I’ve heard so far is they are going to cut seat capacity by about 10k from Arrowhead. All that ends up doing is blowing ticket prices out of control. Yes, I am sure that’s why they are doing it, but that’s why I don’t like that part.

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I get it tho. The highest capacity newer stadiums are in high population areas.

New york, dallas LA.

Kansas isn’t exactly dence

Every other stadium is around 55-60 cap. Again for those other events

Great post.

So essentially, some revenue doesn’t move all that far away without the tax burden on the taxpayers of Missouri?

The Bills are doing the same thing with their new stadium. The franchises think they’ll make more money by having fewer fans in the stadium and much higher prices per seat. I hate to say it, but they probably will make more money between pricing out everyone who wasn’t going to buy much inside the stadium and by reducing operating costs with a smaller venue.

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Personally I hate it. They are making it too expensive for a lot of the most hardcore fans. Next thing you know your home field advantage isn’t as good.

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Way to stick up for the billionaires. They don’t get enough help.

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Very good perspective. For the record, the Browns had a REAL loss when the team left Cleveland to become the Ravens. Not only did they leave the city/state, they left their losing ways behind to deliver countless wins and 2 Super Bowls. Ouch.

Like alot of Lions fans, I went to KC when the Lions played the Thursday opener a few years ago. It is a dump that is hard to navigate in traffic. It shares a parking lot with the Royals in an already congested driving situation. I understand that the stadium is “iconic.” But not all history needs to be relived in present day. Some history just needs to be remembered. The current KC stadium is one of those situations, IMO.

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It wasn’t an us vs them statement… They own it, they can do whatever they want with it… I don’t live in an HOA bc I don’t want people to tell me what to do with my property :man_shrugging:

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