Lions Podcaster Riles Up Fans With Jameson Williams Critique

Mixed feelings on this topic.

I remember Golden Tate flipping into the endzone vs Minnesota and everyone thought it was great. Jamo gets less slack because he’s messed up so many times.

My concern is injury or he slows down at the end and someone knocks the ball loose.

Celebrate after you’re in the endzone and act like you’ve been there before.

On a final note, crotch grabbing could draw a penalty or fine.

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I tend to be in the “if Barry just handed the ball to the ref, who the f#$@ are you to dance?” school.

That being said, this is obviously not the prevailing mindset in the league. Not sure why this would be held against Jamo and not literally every other dude in the NFL.

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People are way too emotional with Jamo based on a lot of BS. It has been that way since he was drafted… “he hated getting drafted here did you see his demeanor”. “Omg he liked a tweet on social media about lamar, he hates Goff”. “He was up late lighting off fireworks what is wrong with him!”

Insert other insane overreactions we see… its whatever just not sure how st brown does this (not the crotch grab but the dive into the endzone etc) and we dont say a word. Can we just talk about the real problems he has had and not talk about the bs that seems to be heightened with him?

I suppose the injury potential is the only aspect that would worry me here. Otherwise, celebrate grab your crotch etc. He pays the fine and as long as it doesnt impact the game or his play in it i simply dont care

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Dery is a douche. That’s all you need to know.

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I agree.

These touchdown celebrations are awful but the league is entertainment and fans (other than myself) like it.

Jamo should get fined and that’ll be the end of it.

When Dery brought Politics into his lions podcasts I started tuning out. When he had Whitmer on his lions podcast and talk smack about Hulk Hogan going to lions training camp practice because he didn’t like his politics.

Leave Politics out of sports I don’t care what side you are on just leave it out 100% of the time.

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Injury and stupid unnecessary penalties. should be avoided.
The Lions have all the injuries they can handle already. I wish he would stop the jumping. The first time was cool, no need to try and top it.
It’s not a continuation of a perceived ‘bad seed named Jamo’ BS.
Coaches should just remind him it’s an unnecessary risk and needs to stop. But man keep catching those TD’s and celebrate with your teammates.
Doesn’t matter whether I like the celebrations or not. The players do, and a lot of fans do.

This is one of those topics that I tend to struggle with as I get older. And it is more about coming to understand that stress and pressure and focus will create alternative reactions from people. Kind of like mourning and judging people how they mourn.

And this discussion for me revolves around emotion and how we as human handle it and how we control them.

So a few weeks ago BB gets ejected for a clear un-necessary hit in a game. And lets stop acting like it was not a savage and un-needed hit because it 100% was and it is something the league has stated they want removed from the league. And my litmus test for this stuff is that if that hit was laid on ARSB would anyone on here say it was OK and just football?

MY point is that the focus needed to get the resulted needed and the emotional commitment involved will manifest itself in different ways with different players and personalities. I mean WTH was BB think when he was clearly super amped when he made that hit and then flipped off the crowd…that right there could have cost the Lions the game by taking one of our best players off the field due to his emotions.

Now we have Jamo who does an absolutely assine backflip into the end zone risking life and limb. So for sure I immediately was like “WHAT ARE YOU DOING TRYING TO GET A CONCUSSION?”.

But I think that the root cause for actions is the fact that the Lions now play of the edge. And the pressure and commitment that is now part of the culture has some side effects.

The hope is that the player will learn how to stay on that edge while also finding a way to cope with the pressure without letting it spill out uncontrolled.

I do not love what Jamo did there but I also do not think it is much different than some other things done by players on this team. It is just Jamo’s seem to be more of a unique pressure release while other players do more “main stream” actions.

I keep coming back to this thought. What if every day you went into work with the idea that today you could get hurt and lose your job, that any mistake could mean your fired, that the ultimate grade is winning which you do not control. Playing in the NFL is a mental battle all the time.

I know a guy indirectly who played Oline in the NFL for like 6 years. And he does not look back on it too fondly. Said that it is so mentally exhausting knowing that you are graded and filmed non-stop and that there is literally a guy sitting next to you trying to take your job and he is low key rooting for you to fail so he gets his chance. This guy was a grinder and what one would call an average player. Also in the 90s so the big money was not out there for him. Good money yes but not bog.

This is why North Dallas Forty is the best sports movie.

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I agree with Dery. Jamo needs to use his head more. We need him for a Superbowl run. If he injures himself doing some stupid flop or flip into the endzone, he’s hurting the team and it is considered a selfish act at that point.
Run into the endzone, spike the ball or do a celebration…but don’t be an idiot doing anything that risks getting yourself injured.

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If everyone did what Barry does, we wouldn’t have thought he was special for doing it. He did it because he’s a special breed - humble but supremely talented. I have no idea why anyone would expect that from everyone else. At the end of the day they’re young guys who get paid millions of dollars to play a violent game. They’re there to have fun and make money, not be exemplars of morality.

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I would suggest that even Barry showed that the stress and pressure manifested itself in him leaving the game early. I am pretty sure he has said recently that if the team was winning he would have kept playing. That the stress and pressure for him caused him to walk away. For BB he went full savage and for Jamo he went nutz…(pun intended).

I guess I have decided to take the approach that the root cause of these actions are all the same but the reaction by these different players shows how they all react differently to these stresses.

The Barry approach was nice and was unique and mature way to deal with the situation.

But for sure would rather dudes hand the ball back verse trying to break ones back. And for Branch he was thrown out of game.

Jahvid best’s td celebrations in college were way ahead of the curve

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I’m all for a good celebration…I don’t wanna see him get injured with all the diving though. Score first and then grab your junk, do the moonwalk and give Roger Goodell the bird :smiley:

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I like Derys podcast. It’s daily and has an easy format. I hate when a podcast comes out once every six weeks and doesn’t seem to have much format except for the host going on and on and on about something

Having said that I thought the Jamo celebration was a bit distasteful and would totally be on point for his luck to get injured during a celebration

I’d like to see that dialed back some and I said this before after his Superman dive across the goal line last year.

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He did it because his dad tore him a new one when he tried to do a popular celebration after scoring when he was young.

Barry Sanders on his father: “He was the reason I never spiked the football. I remember Tony Dorsett scored a touchdown on Monday Night Football and he did some kind of celebration. He probably just put his arms in the air or something. So in my next peewee football game, I went out and tried to imitate whatever Tony had done. After the game, I got into my dad’s car and he said, ‘Oh, you think that’s cute? If I ever see you mimicking those guys on TV.…’ And that was it. After that, I started just handing the ball to the ref.

Maybe he was born a special breed of humble, but I just wanted to give credit to his pops on this one.

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Yep, I don’t care at all about the distastefulness, that’s just societal caprice. In some cultures, grabbing your junk is considered respectful.

But don’t get yourself hurt.

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