Green Bay was playing a bunch of backups on offense as well. So shouldn’t what you are saying apply to LaFleur’s decisions. And yet those decisions one him the game.
Ok let’s dig deeper here not surface level
Twice GB went for it
1st time in the red zone = TD
Then again , 4th and 1 on our 2. After being gifted a penalty flag pick up.
That’s momentum.
That’s smart .
We keep going for it on 4th down , 0 for our last 10.
Giving the other team the ball at 50 yard line anll the time and momentum.
Not being self aware that it’s a slug it out game
Not using our all pro weapon Jack Fox that single handedly almost stopped the bleeding in the NFCCG and won it for us
Not using our defense and complementary football
And that’s we lose
But GB was protecting their QB well. We were not. Huge difference
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Thank you
Analytics are a fine tool
But you still gotta watch the game, trust your gut, and use your instincts to see what is happening
Not just the analytics 
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Actually it’s not. Not at all.
The argument is pretty ironclad. Green Bay won the game bc they were aggressive on+14 on 4th downs. It’s very clear that is what happened. Dan said so himself and Dan is correct.
Now if you want to play passive on 4th that is fine but in this case that locks us into to being -14 on fourth downs. We saw time and again over the last few years other teams losing to us bc of less aggressive high leverage posture.
That being said I still dislike not making it a one score game. I really do believe the first one is fine. I’m ambivalent about that one.
But going in your shell on 4th down in the 2025 NFL is a losing proposition more times than not.
So your vibes tell you that you are right? That’s good.
We were down -17 on 4th down Thursday
They scored 2 TDs smartly going for it on our 1 yard line.
Because you know field position football 101
+14
Didn’t get a FG + 17
Gave them the ball on our side of the field +24
But we got a tuddy once so it’s -17
Green Bay wins
I love both you guys not trying to side with anyone. St. Brown and LaPorta get most on our 3rd and 4th down conversions. Defenses know that. But they weren’t playing so I just think that changes how you call a game. Just my opinion. Stopping Gibbs on a 4th down run is way harder with more weapons on the field. Packers sold out to stop Gibbs cause we were playing without Goff’s 2 favorite targets.
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Not sure why this is so difficult to understand for some.
But Lafleur did it !
And he doesn’t have St Brown either
I was of course addressing GB’s 4th down +\-. I understand basic math. I’m glad to finally realize that you do as well.
Tbf on both occasions the playcall addressed pressure. 
Dan was clear. He messed up the first call. He was pretty sure that he was in the right one on the dropped pass and it turns out we were. We just didn’t execute a routine NFL play.
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Also, keep in mind that I watch Nebraska football. Rhule doesn’t rust his guys to make key plays. It’s infuriating. I’d rather have a coach error on Dan’s side.
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We just see it differently bud. It’s all good.
Gonna focus on this Panthers game.
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How dare he? Gather the posse and get the pitchforks.
Just kidding, I think you made a lot of valid points but that is not one of them.
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Thanks and that’s fair
But if you look at how GB is built…
They want to get the lead early
Control the game
And rush the passer all 2nd half.
If you want to let them do that, then that’s fine.
I just disagree. And think it’s a shitty game plan.
That never bothers me one bit. I get a little annoyed by people denying numerical realities for instance. I think that is tied to us living in truth adjacent times.
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Yep one believes the news as truth
The other trusts his instincts and intuitions!
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Keep Calm and Vibes on, @Jman
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Underrated comment about Campbells and recent food news 
LaFleur didn’t have Tucker Kraft….
and threw the ball to Wicks… twice…. and he has never had a 600 yard season. 