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I heard a recap on YT that compared the Ravens and Lions in drafting philosophy, this draft being top of mind. Ravens trade back or let the draft come to them. Lions are more aggressive. The point was that both ways work but the Lions way is more entertaining for fans.
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All 22 film…listened to that on the drive home…he is really really good. Ravens fan who loves how the lions do stuff so he does content on both.
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2 years ago……
the Lions and Holmes were blasted by the pundits for drafting an off-ball LB in the 1st round…
and now people are worshipping Howie after he traded up (and tried to trade up even farther)…. for an off-ball LB… who has significant shoulder injury history.
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Ratledge = Kenny Powers. LOVE IT!
LaFlamaBlanca - that’s my nickname for him from here on out.
Also - anyone want to debate that Rich Eisen is 10,000 times more handsome since shaving his head?
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I’ll take the other side.
I think he’s 11,000 times more handsome! Prove me wrong
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Everyone else gave us a B
B+ Day 1
C Day 2
A- Day 3
NFL, yahoo, fox etx
Whatever
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just bustin ya.
i just came back from snorkelling in the Carribean. A couple bald guys on the boat next to us, all day out in the sun snorkelling. Poor guys, they did not need a campfire that night, their heads supplied the glowing embers…
So glad I still have a full mop!
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We were graded with one of the worst drafts in 2023. You know, the one where we got Gibbs, LaPorta and Branch. Yeah, terrible draft.
I look forward to the day when the majority of fans stop giving credence to draft analysts. It’s an industry where being right 25% of the time is considered a success, and the most barefaced example of the modern media mantra that it doesn’t matter if you’re right or wrong as long as the content gets made and consumed.
Think about it. Mel Kiper or whoever is just one man. Each NFL team has a staff of maybe 25 scouts. Kiper watches tape on his own and calls coaches. An NFL team sends scouts to watch games live, speak to coaches, team mates, friends, and family, and they have access to their medical records and other personal non-public information. Just one NFL team does probably 30 times as much work on each prospect than a Mel Kiper. And between the whole league it probably amounts to about 900 or 1000 times more man hours spent on each prospect. And yet we throw shade at GMs when Kiper says they reached?! What?!
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The only draft grades that makes sense are maybe three year retrospectives
And even then, only if you take draft position and previous trades into account.
The 49ers get an A+ for the '22 draft because they drafted an above average QB in the 7th round. Don’t really care who else they got. They get an F- for the '21 draft for trading 3 firsts and a third for Trey Lance
I also don’t see any of the gurus like Kiper or McShay throwing out GPS data from games… which leads me to believe they don’t have access to that info.
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A tree is known by its fruit.
Going to the NFCG is good fruit.
Winning 15 games in a season is good fruit.
I never really expected the media to stop throwing shade. I still don’t. Mike just took shots, while reluctantly giving Brad his due.
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I had a small book written on Kiper and Rich Eisen and their total BS from this weekend, but I will save it for now. I will say this on Mike Mayock. Mike Mayock was considered a good draft analyst, and was given the job all of us dream about. Mayock became a GM, which means now he gets to put his money where his mouth is. He doesn’t get to just talk about who to draft, he gets to go do it.
Well, the results speak for themselves. Mayock was a horrible drafter, and ran the Raiders straight into the ground. The guy literally had 3 first round picks in his first draft, a dream scenario, and took Clelin Ferrell at 4, Josh Jacobs at 24 and Johnathan Abram at 27. Two of those guys were monsterous busts, and only Jacobs is even a solid NFL player. 1/3 first rounders became an NFL player, for a guy who is a draft “expert”.
I am dead serious, I think most of the guys on this board could do a better job drafting than the ESPN/NFL network fanboys. Mike Mayock is a big reason why I know I am right.
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I don’t know that he actually had the power in that building. You hear all the time it was actually Gruden with the final say. I’m 99% sure at least the Ferrell pick was Gruden.
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I think we should reach out to the Browns and see if they want to collectively hire us to be their GM. It isn’t like we could make their team any worse.
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Actually, sad but true, we would still get screwed. I wouldn’t touch that job. Just like That’s2 mentioned above, if it’s true Gruden was really the one doing the drafting, then we’d be in the same boat as Andrew Berry in Cleveland. Which is, I don’t think the GM there wanted to draft Shedeur at all, I think the owner drafted him.
I actually thought Cleveland was having a solid draft, then they took Dillon Gabriel with their second 3rd rd pick. No one I know thinks that guy can actually play in the NFL, and it’s not like a Julian Edelman pick where you are thinking position change. Even that was a 7th round pick… So Cleveland takes a no hope guy with a valuable 3rd round pick, then turns around and takes Shedeur with their last pick in the 5th.
Forgetting the complete circus Shedeur brings with him, you just spent 2 picks at QB, when you already had Flacco and Pickett as starter and developmental backup. Let’s say Gabriel was going to be a longshot developmental guy. Then why take Sheduer? Why do you now have 4 QB’s on the roster that you are going to have to split practice time with, which hurts all of their performance?
To me, the reaction of the coaches and GM when Shedeur was taken screamed “owners pick”. Haslam can’t help himself, he forced the Watson trade, and gave him the absolutely terrible gauranteed contract which is literally the worst trade in NFL history. Then they keep restructuring it which makes it even worse. There is no way I’d ever work for that guy, no matter how much it paid.
Yeah so I texted my Raiders buddy and he said the general consensus is Gruden made the calls in the 1st and with Trayvon Mullen at 40 their first year, then after that it was all Mayock. And he was really good.
In 3 years (2019-2021) he drafted Maxx Crosby (4th), Foster Moreau (4th), Amik Robertson (4th), John Simpson (4th), Malcolm Koonce (3rd), Divine Deablo (3rd), and Nate Hobbs (5th). Both of his 7th round picks - Quinton Bell in 2019 and Jimmy Morrissey in 2021 - are still in the league, and Hunter Renfrow just got signed by the Panthers after sitting out a year. Really good haul for them actually, their early picks just killed them.
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I think the Ravens and Eagles are more alike in drafting philosophy. They take chances on talent regardless of character/work ethic issues. The Lions are much more specific with their philosophy, character and work ethic are tops on the list BY FAR. The Ravens and Eagles just stack pure talent, it seems like they always take guys that are mock draft darlings whereas the Lions go off the board more often.
What the Lions, Ravens and Eagles all have in common is that they generally don’t care about need.
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This is good info, thanks! One question, do you know who was responsible for Alex Leatherwood? That was a pick that never made any sense to me. No one really seemed to like him, but the Raiders still took him in the middle of the 1st. He literally didn’t last a year.
My buddy says it was Gruden all the way. All of the 1st rounders were… which makes sense, Mayock never had that many outlier takes as an analyst, and Gruden is definitely an idgaf what you think sort of person.
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