Ovechkin ties Gretzky

Yea scoring 60 plus these days is insane

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Gretzky did it first a lot earlier than did Over.

Gretzky was a freak of freaks

Super super fast on ice or off

You have Howe and Gretzky and then everyone else kind of. I mean who would you put above those 2? Maybe Bobby Orr and Lemieux?

And let’s be clear I am not sure how anyone could come in above those 2.

Gretzky is the undisputed 1. Anyone who doesn’t have Wayne 1, I stop there. Orr, Howe, and Mario usually fight for 2, 3, and 4.

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I had co worker who said Gretzky was so overrated. I started to laugh and just couldn’t even debate him at that moment

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Mario was pretty close to Wayne I think… Health problems and injuries prevented him from even more impressive numbers.

Mario had 1723 points but in only 915 games… Crazy how few games he played. Wayne played like 600 more games.

Points per game played. Wayne 1.921 Mario 1.883

No one else is even close to them

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Not as a playmaker he wasn’t. Mario was special and had the wow factor with his long reach and he could humiliate people with that. But could he set up plays and gets assists like Wayne? No he couldn’t. I personally wouldn’t have him in my 2 position. Lots of people have injury stories too. Including Bobby Orr and his knees. Hell Gretzky had a terrible back injury from a cheap-shot by Gary Suter that he never fully healed from. The Pens fans are always pushing this Lemieux stuff but I’m not buying it. And what kind of dumbass smokes cigarettes during his playing career?

I saw them play together on Team Canada and it was obvious who the playmaker was.

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Wayne was the best play maker ever…but Mario is still second all time in assists per game. Mario probably is the all time goals leader if he doesn’t miss several seasons in his prime.

Here’s the cheap shot on Wayne… He was never the same after this. Battled chronic back issues the rest of his career.

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Ouch I remember it. Canada was in shambles

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Mario was great no doubt but I might even think about voting McDavid for 2nd best playmaker ever. That guy is really good. He turned Zach Hyman into a 50 goal guy. That’s quite amazing.

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They still haven’t recovered…

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Yea we only have 9 olympic gold medals in hockey :wink:

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Gretzky gets trucked and the most popular phrase in Canada for the next 40 years becomes…

…comfort food

I don’t watch that much hockey anymore…but McDavid is legit good.

Playoff hockey is real good though… Look forward to that.

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Here’s the stats from the 87 Canada Cup. This ended any talk of who the greatest playmaker in hockey was. If you’re not convinced by Gretzky having more assists than anyone else has total points.

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Imagine how good some of those Russian guys would have been in the nhl too. Couldn’t come over in those days.

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Klima got smuggled out of West Germany in 85, though the Czechs were less stringent than the Soviets about defectors

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You’re correct…. I was just curious to see what she had on her necklace. :wink:

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