Monty credited with almost 50 yards on 8 touches.
Not pounding Gibbs was the deal.
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No, people are turning on him.
He’s been described as a tone-setter for this team, you don’t get that from a day 2 or 3 rookie.
David is the starting back, he’s the hammer. Gibbs is the lightning and he is the better back but he’s not a bell-cow 25 carry player.
People are being very knee-jerk. Had we won last night, we wouldn’t be having this conversation.
It’s possible that we ask David to take a pay cut but probably not.
David playing last night was the least of our worries. Goff didn’t play good and our defense gave up 38 points. How about we focus on those things that are keeping us from going deeper in the playoffs?!?!
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I love DMO but playing him and STARTING him over Gibbs last few games was so dumb I actually am doubting Dan Campbell wanted to win this game.
The first play he had zero burst and looked like a poor man’s Netflix. Who saw DMO run that slow, that scared, all week and wanted to that instead of Gibbs.
I really want the answer from the coaching staff because no one who wanted to win that game was playing DMO. Just doesnt make any sense.
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LOL… wtf!!!
Man, you guys just lose your ever lovin’ minds when we lose a game. LOL
Now the coaches didn’t want to win?!?!? LOL
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First half DMO was at 4 or 5 carries for 10 yards and Gibbs was averaging 11 YPC.
DMO looked awful. No one saw him at practice and felt he was better than Gibbs, Jamo, St. Brown, Kalif with the ball.
Zero burst, couldn’t cut, slow to get up, looked hurt, his run gait was bad clearly favoring the good leg.
With that, they started him over the PLAYER OF THE MONTH.
I want 10 minutes of questions just on that. Go through, step by step, why they thought a guy who could barely run was better than the Offensive player of the month.
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Who said anything about a random guy off the street? I suggested drafting a talent rookie on day 2/3. Don’t twist the words to suggest I said Monty was replaceable with just any warm body. I even gave him his props. He just isn’t a top 15 NFL back like he’s being paid. Not even close
He WAS the ton setter. If you don’t think that’s Gibbs after what he did the last month, I don’t know what to tell you. A lot of backs can duplicate what Monty does behind our OLine. See Jamaal Williams in 2023. Dude has never done squat away from Detroit.
Conner and Monty are not the same. Yes, you go look at stats and tell me they are the same. Conner also doesn’t have a Gibbs in his backfield or our offensive line.
Wanna bet? Gibbs didn’t play 75% of offensive snaps all season, he didn’t start yesterday.
Some really horrible takes after this loss. Like people have amnesia.
I think it was dumb af to have Montgomery out there to start after missing so much time. And I always thought Gibbs should get more burn. But the lions always start D-mo to set the tone of the game and He usually beasts.
Sad that people can turn on him so quickly. His extension didn’t hurt our cap. Although I would love to draft skattebo as the knuckles replacement and the extension did kinda jack that up.
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Yeah no Montgomery cheese ,I like my Gibbs , have to get a Gibbs jersey
I haven’t turned on Monty. Some weird interpretations around here sometimes. He’s a good compliment to Gibbs. Nothing that happened last night changed my opinion of Monty. They already had him under contract for next season. The extension was dumb when they gave it to him. Last night didn’t influence that thought one bit. Gibbs being among the top 3-5 backs in football just emphasizes it even more.
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How many Gibbs carries per year are you comfortable with? 255 is 15 per game.
Do you have a list of these day 2 or day 3 guys who are just as good as Monty?
I’d love to see that list and the hit rate on RB’s in those rounds the last few years…my guy says if you actually listed them out, you’d probably retract what you originally said.
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Monty was a day 2 pick lol
It will be interesting where Skattebo goes in the draft. Unfortunately it’s hard to get better when you’re constantly drafting replacements. At some point, you have to reward your guys and try to use the draft to fill some other voids.
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Touche. And Tbf I forgot that his contract was close to 10 million a year but I think it was an overcompensation for how underpaid he was on the original contract.
But I think your comments are a bit unfair
And you (we) only have this opinion and disregard for Monty because Gibbs has been INCREDIBLY durable. If gibbs went down for 6 weeks and we had to relay on vaki or Reynolds we’d be screwed.
Also think there’s a lot of value in his leadership in bringing Gibbs along.
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Don’t disagree with any of this. Only thing I want to not is, IMO, a talented rookie 3rd-4th round pick could produce what Monty does at a fraction of the cost. Monty does add more intangibles obviously though that needs to be considered.
All I’m saying is Monty would still be under contract for ~6 million next year without an extension. Still an expensive RB2.
I like the theory of awarding guys. IMO, he always was paid adequately. Eventually, giving these guys their extra few million will make you have to make a decision on a player much more valuable than RB2.
Just my thoughts. I still love Monty and what he brings
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The fact that posters have turned on Monty, Goff, etc is sad…
Have I gotten on Holmes? Sure. I think prepping for months for a draft, and FA is a bit different than the live bullets a QB or even a coach has to deal with.
I expect us to extend 2 key guys… retain 2 key guys… and draft at least 4 power, nfl ready bodies… in addition we will sign 3 outside FAs, or trade for, on 2 plus year contracts.
Monty gets 8M next 2 years then it’s nothing to cut him in 2027. I still love the deal.
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Probably should look at the details of the “extension” before labeling it in any way.
The Lions gave Monty some extra cash in 2024.
About $3.25 million extra… probably a reward for outperforming his $6 million AAV given that RB contracts jumped in 2024.
They also effectively guaranteed his $6 million in cash for 2025… but did NOT add any new money to it.
They did NOT add any guaranteed money beyond 2025.
They can still move after the original 3-yr deal…
after having “rewarded” him with that additional $3.25 million on top of his original $18 million over 3 years.
However… the extension DID add what amounts to a team option for 2026… in which he could make $6 million once again.
Then… while he is due $9 million in cash for 2027….
there is NOT a single penny of it guaranteed.
In other words… that is phunny money to make his agent look better.
To recap….
the “extension” made his 3 years deal worth $21.25 million ($7.08 million AAV)… instead of $18 million…
and….
Lions have a team option that turns it into a 4-yr deal for $27.25 million…. or… about $6.8125 million AAV.
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