I understand either route, staying/going.
Personally i kind of hope he stays always enjoy seeing a homegrown prospect make good and be with the team for a long time.
Weas, youâve made me google lots of stuff.
Google is your friend.
No one loves Skubal more than me. And I have a reason for that belief, that I wont share. However, if Chris Ilitch is not going to spend and the Orioles will give us Holliday, Mayo, and another top prospect, we have to consider that.
Skubal is going to get $400 Million. If the Tigers rebuild went to plan, it is possible Chris would pay that. But this rebuild has missed. And thats ok. Baseball is the hardest sport to evaluate and scout. The hardest
Even Jackson Holliday is not guaranteed. I think Holliday will he a .285 hitter with 20-30hrsâŚOPS of 800-850 in the MLB. I dont think he is generational. He will be good. But generational? I do not see that.
Seriously, thatâs like my best meme in weeks.
Yeah it fits real well.
I thought somehow you didnât know.
Silly me.
Dont trade him.
He will be testing the FA MARKET. 400-500 millionâŚ
Honestly, Baltimore is not smart if they dont trade for Skubal. Theyll win the World Series with him.
They need to wake up.
I agree with you. Baltimore is stupid if they donât do whatever it takes.
They have the chance to go into a playoff series with the equivalent of Arizonaâs Randy Johnson and Curt Schilling. They can basically throw 2 studs out there for 4 games, of a 7 game series.
Iâm not sure how it works out for us though. We would have to get 2 perennial All-Star bats in return for us to win the trade. As mentioned multiple times in this thread, no prospect is ever guaranteed to work out.
If the Tigers were in their âwindowââŚi would obviously keep want to keep Skubal. Unfortunately, we are not the Dodgers and have an unlimited payroll.
Skubal is likely to be traded at some point. Honestly, id love to see him in BaltimoreâŚinstead of LA, Boston or a Yankee in future years.
Id watch every start he has in Baltimore
I hope they realizeâŚno baseball âprospectâ is a given. What the âexpertsâ projectâŚreduce it by 30-40 percentâŚ
Its Baltimores timeâŚ
And if they dont extend SkubalâŚthey can always trade him âŚ
Its a win-win
And âyesââŚthe Tigers have a âwindowâ because they dont have LA Dodger money
Hes under control two more years. You can.build around him.
Fair point if you believe we are going to compete in the next 2-3 years, plus Chris paying Skubal on average $450 million
I would never pay any player that amount unless I was the Dodgers.
Really dont wanna see Skubal in LA, Ny. BOS.
Hope he is an Oriole.
Very boring if he ends up in LA, BOS, or NY.
So boringâŚ
Tigers shouldnât just trade to trade though. Oâs need to make the deal to sweet for the Tigers not to say no.
No pitcher is getting that. Ohtanis contract is not a comp due to both his hitting and the massive deferrals making it a $450m contract in reality/NPV.
3 offseasons from now, Skub could command $50m a year with 2 more similar seasons. Unlikely, but ok. He will be age 30 at that point and should get a 6 or 7 year deal. So, max he gets is 300-359m, IF everything goes right.
Its still a pile, but the right questions are if they ever want to committ that kind if coin to amy pitcher and how that would fit with a payroll that would need to at that point lock in Greene, possibly Tork assuming a big rebound and hopefully have enough success from Keith to start sniffing a home town deal extension there, plus any big FA splash.
Tough to say. If it were 6/300 after 2 more years Iâd be inclined to do it and have an ace for my window, and hopefully a second cheaper one in Jobe.
To further your point, if the Tigers donât want to make that commitment you can move him then. He will have been healthy and you should be able to get a good haul, not like now.
One guy on MLB Radio said today that he thought it was foolish for Baltimore to NOT go all in right now. He said for them to take that last step for a WS they need to feel some pain in a trade.
This trade is worth the pain and they need to do it.
Asking price is sky high as it should be and why I donât think a deal gets done.
I agree about the Orioles because this is what they set themselves up to do which is have a boatload of prospects come up let them shake out and trade off the Surplus or slow Developers. I donât think any of the guys that weâve been talking about are slow developers but they have an absolute Surplus which means they have a window right now that does not include barely any salary so not only can they do a deal like this then they can go out and add a couple top free agents free agents, probably more than once has they have some guys theyâll cycle out like Santander and recently departed Austin Hayes