Yep…but Max was worse…he immediately won several cy youngs once he left
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This is not good for the Tigers.
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So you let a combined 5 cy young winners leave… No biggie. Lmao
Now I get why the kid is nervous
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They paid Cabrera and let the pitchers go when they should have done the complete opposite. Cabrera was always lazy and out of shape, have no idea why you would give him that deal.
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Porcello’s Cy was garbage.
Ray’s was fluky too. 1/3 of his carwer WAR was that season. 13 wins. FiP almost a run over his not amazing 2.84 ERA. Meh.
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Hit Skub with 8/320 right now. No trade, opt out after year 3. Its already in the budget with Torres/Cobb/Maeda.
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Gotta be 400 mill I think Weasel
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Too bad we can’t trade him for Paul Skenes. It works from our end but Pitt would have no interest.
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Pittsburgh has a kid coming up from the minors in the next couple of weeks that might be just as good as Skenes.
They are going to have one hell of a pitching staff in 2 years.
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I didn’t think we had a choice with Max. Mr I was still alive so you know he’d pay. I thought Max wanted to move on, but my memory could be wrong.
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10/400. Ouch. Age 30-39.
It’s still in the budget. Plenty of agreement on the whole Max Scherzer thing.
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Talk about being A STOPPER
Needs to be signed long term
What a performance
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To be fair, my understanding is that Max wanted to leave and be the ace somewhere. There was nothing we could’ve done about that.
I definitely don’t think Skubal wants to leave. I wouldn’t be surprised if his agent wants him to leave.
Verlander on the other hand had no business being traded.
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I think something happened between Ilitch and Scherzer, perhaps the offer wasn’t what Scherzer expected and Ilitch was pissed he didn’t accept. Just recall there was friction between them, not the good kind.
On Scherzer’s declining a $144 million contract extension offered in 2014:
“We made him an offer and it looked like he was going to take it, then all of the sudden he wanted a little bit more and it was a great number. It irked me a little bit. I figured, ‘How much do you want? I just asked you what you wanted.’ Then he tells me he wants more. So, forgot about him.”
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Wasn’t Verlander traded when the Tigers were on the downward trend. Lots of key players getting older not performing like the past so they decided to start the rebuild. Granted didn’t work but I do understand why they traded JV and others.
Farm was barren at the time and they needed to restock young talent but they were killed by the timing. IIRC, that was the time when clubs went from trading high valued prospects to nope, we are keeping them. Prospects went from being viewed as trade chips to high value assets, right when Avila was tasked with starting over.
No farm talent
No analytics at all
Older players with skyrocketing payroll and no chance to win anything.
Trade market philosophy changes.
Two hits? Trash. Probably should just let him walk. Always worked well before.
#TheAthletic: Tigers’ Tarik Skubal keeps staking his claim as the best pitcher in baseball
full article at Link.
“He’s the best,” Vogt said. “He’s the best pitcher in baseball, and he showed it today.”
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And then, just before the final scene, he called Dingler to the mound and removed his cap. The Comerica Park crowd had turned so loud that Skubal could not hear his PitchCom.
“He was going to signs,” Skubal said of Dingler. “I was like, ‘No, bro, just come out here real quick.’”
All reset on the mound, Skubal had the volume on the PitchCom device all the way cranked up. The crowd grew silent. The call for a fastball came in so loud it might have hurt Skubal’s ears. He worried the batter could hear the call.
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“I’m an emotional player,” Skubal said. “I feed off energy in stadiums. When everyone is on their feet, chanting pretty good, special things can happen when you’re in my shoes.”
That all led us to the ninth. Skubal entered the inning with his pitch count at 85. Hinch did not hesitate to send him out to finish the shutout bid.
“Obviously we are careful across the industry in how we handle these guys,” Hinch said. “The pitch counts have diminished and the inning totals have diminished. Sometimes it’s your big boy’s day, and you got to leave him out there.”
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I was watching with my wife, and with two strikes, two out in the ninth, the announcer kept saying - - ooh he’s set up for the changeup, watch the change-up coming, bla bla bla… I said to my wife… this guy doesn’t know Skubal, he’s bringing the heat… Boom - 103!
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Confirmed Jersey’s wife loves the high velo! 
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