The greatest T-shirt I’ve ever seen was that setup with Wu-Tang clan written in one circle and nothing to ■■■■ with in the other.
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You are the resistance my man
Revolution is very simple in this era
Turn in iPhones , smart TVs, etc
Go back to the basics and they can’t surveillance or continue to force the agenda upon us
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But they get us with the smart phones.
Sometimes I wonder about that. If they collectively gave us the option to go back to an entirely analogue world would we take it. Living standards would have to decline but mental health would improve, communities would become more connected in a touch grass sort of way and gun to my head most people would be happier.
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Time to go full Amish bud. Are you in? Look at the fun we will have. 
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The difference is we are on precipice of it being companioned by a predictive element. A minority report like version of the future is a very real possibility depending on the sort of choices that we collectively make.
I think this, along with job loss, is why the data center issue is approaching a 75/25 issue. You can’t get Americans to agree 3 to 1 about anything these days and yet …
I don’t know, it just feels to me like something is brewing from a grass roots level. Something humanist rather than partisan. Perhaps I’m being naive.
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And bluetooth apps. It’s crazy what sort of permissions are turned on by default on bluetooth apps. Also, why do bluetooth devices need apps? (Answer, they don’t). When the tech first dropped none came with apps, everyone’s phone has the connection path built into it natively. The apps were created for one reason: to gather information about you.
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Oh they can, and they’ve made it very, very hard to go back to basics. Try going to a concert/game without a smartphone, for instance.
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No. What I’m suggesting is that it doesn’t matter what we want, unless we come up with enough lobbying money to counter all the AI companies, data brokers, police, etc ad nauseum. Money is what makes decisions in politics and especially in Washington, not the will of the people. I’d link the appropriate study that shows exactly that, but I’m at work and kind of just can’t be bothered to go looking, tbh 
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City Council members are never amused by stuff like this.
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This is true of everything through all of history. Everything is couched in performative nonsense to make it look like it’s not really about money, but it 100% is. But if you enrage people enough it’s easy to distract them.
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So don’t go
A small price to pay for freedom
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Crazy that our living standard alone are inversely related to happiness.
This way isn’t working
Time to go back to the old way
The generation now is doing so. Very proud of them
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I see. 100% agree in that case. Perhaps that is why this gives me some hope. The fight over the surveillance state and labor force replacement not the Darth Vader gag, as much I do love it. If it becomes about issues of what it is to be human rather than partisan divide and conquer stuff then we’ve got a shot.
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I’ve thought about this as a second property if the right opportunity arrives. Drop your all plugged in devices at the door. Analogue tech everywhere. Maybe one computer with special access for emergencies. This type of thing is a growing segment albeit off of a very small base. It usually comes with super hippy dippy wellness traits which isn’t my thing. Probably sounds odd being that I live in perhaps the most hippy dippy place in planet earth.
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I feel like the hippy dippy are always the first ones in on the trends
They fixed Detroit from the ground up 10-15 years ago.
Then they got priced out….
Wild
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That is but a small example. How are you accessing the internet? Do you have an IP address? Do you have bluetooth devices (not ‘smart’ devices, bluetooth). If they have apps go look at their permissions. Do you click on links? Watch youtube videos? Do you have a bank? Even if you don’t online bank, they store your info online. Do you drive a car model year 2017 or later? Do you pay for anything with a credit card?
Erasing our digital fingerprint at this point is nigh on impossible. We all got duped early on when we didn’t know what we’re doing, and there’s likely enough info about us in our old emails to build a decent chunk of it. Now that a majority of the every day stuff we interact with can track us too, it’s an uphill battle.
Still, no reason to make it super easy for them by taking my phone everywhere.
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As @CuriousHusker said
We have one main hub —- a public library! Internet coffee shops etc
Go back to DVDs not streaming (where they can alter and edit what is put out)
Don’t have to go full Amish
Just scale this back 10x
The cars are ■■■■■■■ bullshit I do not drive a car newer than 2017
Smart cars Smart appliances
Why???
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This is the way. The trick to being invisible isn’t to be “unseeable”. If anything that just draws more attention. It’s to be digitally bland but predictable. Look like an old person who doesn’t really keep up with technology. Just think about it, if you’re a spy trying to be invisible in another country, you don’t try to not be seen, you try and fit in as much as possible. Think “The Americans” or that ilk. We’re just trying to replicate that digitally.
I have a buddy from an old job, he’s a coder and sort of blames himself for being ‘part of the problem’ back in the day. Well he’s trying to be utterly invisible, and it’s a lot. And I wonder, while you say that’s the price to pay for our freedom, is he really free? Depends on your definition I suppose. But he’s CONSTANTLY thinking about it, remaining vigilant, installing Linus on devices, running updates, de-installing updates that were forced on him, staying up on the latest tech on his deep web message boards, constantly fixing 10+ year old tech, on and on an on. Is that freedom? He certainly seems enslaved by his principles, but more power to him. I ain’t doing it like that.
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