The more Rod Wood talks, the more happy I am we have Spielman

Not at all, I think this ownership was an embarrassment then, is an embarrassment now, and has been consistently embarrassing for decades. It’s one of the things Lions fans can rely on. Coaches come and go, rules change, schemes evolve. Through it all, the Lions will be run by morons and the team’s results will reflect that.

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Well we’re all entitled to our opinion.

But what Rod Wood says and does are completely different. The more he talks the more he lets out the bag what’s really going on in Allen Park and I don’t think he puts things in a good light. That’s my opinion.

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That’s why I find it laughable when people try to claim that Martha forced Caldwell and JBC on Quinn and Patricia.

Martha said from day one that it was BQ’s decision. Rod has backed that up. BQ himself said it was his decision.

But I think it’s obvious that Rod Wood is far more involved now than he was.

I think with Sheila it could be different

Have to agree with this now.

I always try to give benefit of the doubt but with the added hindsight - yep… MP was planned all along

Caldwell thinks Quinn wanted to go another direction to begin with but kept him around because of direction from above.

So, on one hand you’re right that it is laughable to think the Ford’s are dictating anything. On the other hand, we could see theiir affinity for Caldwell and how their vouching for him as a leader would carry weight. That stops at Caldwell, though. Once Quinn makes the decision to move on, the Ford influence is gone. I don’t know how anyone could think retaining JBC was Ford influenced at all. That’s a football decision by Patricia.

They are who we thought they were!

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BQ wanted MP from day one. There’s zero doubt on this. But it was BQ who chose not to go that direction from day one. Martha gave him permission to make a HC change if he preferred. Wood, Martha and BQ all admitted to this.

I recall at the members summit after we hired MP that Rod Wood made a comment that BQ was hyping MP up to anyone who would
Listen from the moment he arrived in DET.

I think BQ’s original plan was to run with Caldwell for one year while he got his scouting department and front office in place. Also to give him a year to get his feet wet. I think he stacked the deck against Caldwell by not giving him a run game and retooling the OL. But to BQ’s surprise Caldwell made the playoffs that year forcing BQ’s hand to bring him back.

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Agreed. I just think he rolls with his own guys from day 1 if Martha wasn’t so fond of Caldwell. Yes, he had the latitude to do what he wanted, and he also had latitude with his pal as he was still welcome to continue in NE. So, he did as you say.

All that said, and to the point of the original post, why would ownership sit in on an “interview” when they know the desired outcome was to hire Patricia anyway?

People are free to run their own business, even if they’re running it into the ground, the way they see fit to do so. I simply feel that most people running a business successfully wouldn’t autonomously delegate the hiring of a critical position without even being in the room to listen. When you do that, you leave yourself open to all kinds of mischief.

Remember when the sexual harassment story broke shortly after MP was hired? You remember them all tap dancing around it until it went away? That’s exactly the kind of crap that happens when you have an owner and ignorant team president that believes in running things on autopilot and being too lazy to do their own digging and vetting.

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You win. These were real interviews and they were derelict in not attending them.


You made the accountant go back to the roofer - who wanted to get off the job anyways - to demand a tiny portion of the prepaid bill because you can’t just leave a job half done no matter how poorly managed the building process has been given all the resources available to make the building each year

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He didn’t pretty Good in trucking

How hard is it to be a GM in the nFL
In terms of the day to day tasks ?

If he decides Lawrence , it won’t seem like a bad pick for his franchise given southern location , skill and popularity.

A multi billion dollar company
Thsts a media conglomerate basically
The internet and a huge platform

I bet other teams saw it

But Wood offered defenses of it before he even really knew extent of it

  • check the timeline
    Imo a bad look given climate thst year.
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I found the entire process odd.

We had several people lined up to interview but after interviewing BQ they canceled the rest of the interviews and hired him. The whole process felt like the Lions hadn’t really listened to BQ’s long term plan.

I do think BQ wanted MP from day one and Martha gave him the ok to do it. If everyone remembers BQ made Caldwell interview for 2 weeks before deciding to keep him. For some reason BQ decides to wait a year before bringing in MP. Maybe he weighed the Ford families feelings on Caldwell. Or maybe MP wasn’t quite ready to be HC. Meaning he didn’t have enough staff lined up. Or maybe MP wanted to wait a year.

I honestly felt like BQ didn’t give Caldwell the tools he gave MP. Mainly a running back worth a crap. He stacked the deck for MP’s arrival.

The whole process stunk and showed we had a GM/HC tandem that wasn’t working together. That’s how BQ sold us on MP… Which is likely the reason why the Lions want a combo who is on the same page from day one this time around.

Hopefully we do not have to wait much longer to find out what they decide to do.

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