The more Rod Wood talks, the more happy I am we have Spielman

This was a good read. Very disturbing that ownership wasn’t involved in Patricia’s interview. Just Quinn and Rod, selecting a head coach, no big deal, right?

Very, very, very happy Spielman is involved. Good interview and journalism here.

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That is encouraging. Good find!

Damn fucking Fords, Accorsi and Quinn.

Let me tell you how this went

Interviewee.#1 Sly Croom. Nice guy. Lions guy. Sorta like a poofy couch you had in college. Nostalgic, always there, you don’t really want to get rid of it, but it’s been in the basement storage for a decade.

Interviewee #2. Random NFL retread GM type guy. "Yknow, back in 1988 when I hadn’t yet been fired from 3 jobs, I made some great late round picks on TEs and Fullbacks…

Interviewee #3-Accorsi’s buddy Smaaaht Guy, who talks about optimizing analytics and synergizing efficiencies and generally sells Martha a monorail.

Martha- SOLD!

FML.

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So you got that out of that article as well…

Yes, we should all be thankful Spielman and Disner are involved.

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Wow, I am shocked…shocked that a 90 year old made a bad decision.

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The more Rod Wood talks the more I realize just how much he’s in over his head. The guy hasn’t a clue and has no business being in the position that he is in.

I have very little faith in the Lions front office because of Rod Wood. Spielman does instill some confidence but it’s offset by Woods ineptitude.

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that’s a little overdramatic.

Not sure if you saw this from after Quinn got fired. Make your own conclusions.

https://lionswire.usatoday.com/2020/11/29/detroit-lions-president-rod-wood-job-duties-why-he-stays-after-firings/

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Not at all. They’re not football people. Their team president is not a football person. Their GM is HFGIC (Head Football Guy In Charge). Patricia is 100% a Quinn hire, who was given the latitude to do such. The next guy will also be given the same level of control and relied upon as the Football Guy.

It just lets you know how far removed they are. In that sense, maybe it is disturbing. But to be honest, I think most everyone already assumes this, no?

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How about all the slappies that bought it?

Was there any doubt who the next HC would even be as long as HE wanted to come here?

Patricia was Quinn’s guy. Had been pushing for him since he was hired here.

At the same time there are threads here about the current GM and HC search. About how they need to work together. Some saying we should hire the GM first so he can pick the coach. We are going to look backward and complain the last GM was allowed to hire his guy?

With this ownership? They have always been hands off once they hire people to do jobs. It’s the appealing part of the job for many.

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Let me analogize this. You have a billion dollar business you have inherited. Every year you receive around 300 million to build a 200 million dollar building. This building is rated against 31 other competitors.

Upon inheriting the business, you put your accountant in charge even though they have no experience. The decision is made to fire the architect, even though no one in the decision making circle has any ideas how to replace them.

The owner calls the building department to get a recommendation on who to hire, and follows their recommendation.

The architect decides to fire the foreman, the guy responsible for reading the blueprints and operating the work crew in the most efficient fashion to construct the building and make it all it can be.

As the owner, you decide you don’t even need to be around for hiring a new foreman, you’ll just let your accountant and architect figure that out and get back to you.

There’s not too many people I know who would choose to run their business this way, and I bet you wouldn’t either.

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Your analogizing is agonizing. :slight_smile:

So why not just hire a GM and let him run the football side of things? Why must they have another layer of management to cover the football side of things?

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Seriously, though. The situation speaks for itself. The Fords do NOT know football. The team President does NOT know football. They really are putting the football decisions in the hands of the GM. THAT is expert that they’re deferring to. It’s shocking on one hand that a billion-dollar business is owned by people that don’t know anything about it, but at the same time it should be encouraging that they’re willing to let the football guy make the football decisions, unlike Snyder who has finally reached a point in DC that he’ll defer to the HFGIC.

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@TCLion This is really a great analogy. :+1: :+1:

It’s kind of incomplete. But if the bottom line is “I wouldn’t run my business this way”, I’m not going to argue. There’s a lot about this team that I wouldn’t run the same way.

That said, the architect accommodated the owner’s request to retain the previous architect’s foreman to begin with. When this didn’t produce the results they were hoping for, the architect was given latitude to bring his own foreman in, which happened. The only steps involving the owners on that one was letting them know that their Plan A is being abandoned and they are moving onto Plan B. Any interviews in that process were mere formalities to placate the building department.

The past is the past: it sucked

The hope I find here is this guy is admitting he made a mistake and is trying a different approach- props

And know let’s pray it works!! :crazy_face:

Is this better? Snyder v2?

It’s too bad that there are no options between Dan Snyder-style ownership and total indifference-style ownership. That must be why all 32 NFL teams have been perennial losers for six decades.

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Remmy, tell me the truth. Do you think there was a real “interview process” when Patricia was hired? Or, do you think it was Quinn getting his guy after 3 years of working with their guy?

Everyone who thinks the Lions were legitimately interviewing HC’s 3 years ago please stand up!

The “interview” process was a formality and everyone who’s taken the time to register a screen name on The Den knows it.