The T.J. Hockenson trade has almost fully backfired on the Detroit Lions

As i agree that this spot is “frequently” clickbait you got me to read it, well done.

For me it still falls into clickbait.
he references the salary savings and addition of Arnold and Vaki as “almost nothing”
it’s what they got out of it, which was close to nothing.
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The Lions walked out of this trade with Hendon Hooker, Brodric Martin, and Antoine Green. No, that wasn’t it.

Yea, what Holmes took over at the time the salary savings was important for what he had to do with the condition the team was in.
Arnold equals almost nothing? Yes he walks it back a little
Vaki, could be a special teams player for a while in Detroit. which the front office values.
Plus, I don’t believe Hock fit the culture Holmes and Campbell wanted.

So, yea, for me this is clickbait as the foundation is weak for the article it’s why I rarely if ever post links to these type sites. Focusing more on the Detroit paper articles.

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Those 3 INTs, even if you want to put them 100% on TJ and 0% on Goff didn’t lose us 16 games

Goff playing like Dog :poop: and terrible D were the main factors in the Lions failure during Goff’s first year and a half here

To pretend Goff wasn’t horrible and 90% of this board wasn’t calling for him to be gone is ignoring reality and trying to revise history

No TE in the history of the NFL has been the reason his team lost 16 out of 19 of their games. Lets be real

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Mike Payton writing an article that sucks part 3425

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Sign me up for making this deal again. If I remember right (certainly should be questioned), Hock was going to hit FA and we weren’t going to pay him. Cutting losses, securing some form of value when you know you are going to lose a player when you really are not in serious contention makes sense to me. This year I would hate to see a trade like this, but this year’s context is different than that year’s context.

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The author is right but things aren’t as simple as he states them. So he’s also partially wrong.

The Lions had the opportunity to easily win that trade. We chose to gamble on some picks with high upside instead.

I think Brad felt he was playing with house money so why not put it all on red.

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The Lions weren’t going to pay Hockenson. It was either trade him or let him walk and hope for a comp pick, and Brad chose to trade him and get multiple picks instead of one. The only other way this could have backfired would be if Hockenson was great for the Vikings and the Lions failed to bring in a TE at least as good as him as a replacement. Since LaPorta has been at least as good as a receiver and far superior as a blocker than Hockenson, that reason for it being a bad trade doesn’t hold up either.

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The blocking is what really got me. He was supposed to be the grand poo bah of blocking and he put very little effort in. Probably played a large part in his departure.

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Wesley Snipes Always Bet On Black GIF

That’s why. Extra points if you remember what bad movie this was from. Although I did find it difficult to turn off.

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Goff had 19 TDs against 8 INTs in 2021….how does that equate to playing like dog shit??

We will see how they feel when Hock blows another blocking assignment this year and gets JJ killed. Or tips another ball up into the air and it shows up for JJ as an interception.

Hock can be very good but not consistently. The year we traded him more than 1/2 Goff’s ints were with Hock as the target if I recall correctly. He was not and is not worth the salary but you can’t see that on a stat sheet.

Goff having his top two receivers out of football by game two didn’t help.

He was throwing to a rookie and two complete strangers until JRey got here.

He won 10 games the previous season. You act like he had a talented and cohesive NFL team around him when he got here.

He didn’t. He inherited the same dumpster fire that Holmes and Campbell are now famous for turning around.

Quintricia are why Goff played like shit!

It blows my mind how some people refuse to get off a proven line of bullshit once they’ve adopted it.

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Let’s not also forget that dogshit o-coordinator he had in the beginning.

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Yep! It’s no coincidence that we started winning after Dan started calling the plays.

Lynn was not him.

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I was so happy when I read the news that Hock was traded….
that I remember exactly where I was at that moment.

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I was pretty vocal of my tgoughts on giving Hock a top of market extension…
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P.S. —- he still does NOT run after the catch.

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He does like to catch the ball and then immediately go down into a fetal/turtle position. To Hock, YAC is just a Nepalese cow.

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I also remember that Goff threw only 1 INT over the final 10 games if the 2022 season after Hock was traded.

Also… to clarify for some… Anthony Lynn was not with the team in 2022.

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after joining Vikings in 2022….

Interceptions continued to follow Hock….
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I do recall that movie….barely. I forget the name but he was an air marshal on a plane or cop. Something like that. Too lazy and too busy to look it up.

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My big issue was he went down after the catch and rarely picked up extra yards. He’s an athlete not a football player. That’s why he was a bad fit.

Passenger 57

Passenger 57?

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