Thread title change...now about Linderbaum

A lot can happen over the course of a year.

Remember Graham Glasgow?

Also, why wouldn’t you focus on the most recent data point as opposed to one that happened much further back? That makes no sense.

Lions Fans are so broken

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Yes they are lol.

Gotta give Holmes some credit for at least having some depth on the OL. Doesn’t sound like Miller or Mahogany is long term and Mays should be back in a few games. To early in the season for a Thursday night game so hopefully we can stay healthy in this game.

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Because the most recent data point isn’t comparable at all. The preseason vs a real game and a comparing a old ass broken down Graham to a 27 year old is just illogical

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Such a nice luxury to have a backup RT with a bunch of solid starting play just last year. Good job, Brad.

Bartch isn’t giving the starting gig back IMO.

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Agree on both counts. I don’t think Bartch should be counted as one of the backups playing on the OL. I think he is more one of the new faces of a redesigned line.

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I have a question for the @CuriousHusker @Thats2 or other OL knowledgeable guys.

I know we signed Mays to be the new C, and I don’t see a case where Scruggs supplants Mays as full time C once he is healthy. Compared to last year though, to me it seemed like Scruggs played better than Glasgow, or any of the other backup centers last year. Is that actually accurate or more just recentcy bias?

While @CuriousHusker and @Thats2 offer up their takes, I’d also like to know their opinions on which one plays the OG position better.
The little bit of 22 I watched on Scruggs playing center has been damn impressive, can Mays be a standout LG? Or is Scruggs a better OG?
If Scruggs continues to improve and stand out as OC, do you replace him?
Granted, it’s only been one game, but I feel like we hit the jackpot with Scruggs.

He played well, and imo it would have been one of Glasgow’s better games last year for sure. It’s hard to compare one game to a whole season, a little apples and oranges, but I can’t remember one where Glasgow was better. BEFORE last season he had some really good games at C, but last year was a struggle for sure.

Thus far, both have really struggled at guard when given the opportunity (Scruggs to the point of being inactive on game day). BUT the sample size is small, our environment is better, and our OL coach is likely better as well, so I wouldn’t rule it out. I expect they’ll get their chances there. But the evidence thus far leans “no.”

Despite Scruggs being very good, Mays’s highs have still been higher imo. He had some utterly dominant games last year where you might have thought he was the best center in the league. That said, like the guard question, the sample size is still small, and Scruggs might have that in him as well. He hasn’t gotten to play much center while healthy since he was a rookie.

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Lets see how Scruggs plays tonight on the road in a loud stadium blocking Ed Oliver. If he looks good again that would be very encouraging.

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Oliver used to give Rags fits too, he was just that type he tended to struggle with, the small super-quick DT. Your Kelce, Dalman, even Linderbaum types had much more success with Oliver, but they struggle (when they did) with the big strong boys, of which there are a lot more. It will be interesting to see how Scruggs handles him, but will likely need some double-team help. I don’t find Buffalo’s edge rushers all that threatening, but Leonard is a good coach.

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The Lions’ latest injury looks like the same old story. I don’t think it is, there’s a bigger reason Blake Miller is missing this game

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I hope that is the case as well, just an abundance of caution given the short turnaround (and mini-break right after it). Especially since we have a good backup situation.

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Yep, it’s why I brought him up. I remember that well.

Having an electrical substation next to where you play …

What could go wrong???

That substation has been next to their practice field since the mid-80s, didn’t seem to bother those early teams much. They didn’t start getting injured at this rate until Shanahan took over, to me that’s a much stronger relation statistically. And it’s still weak, I think it’s just bad luck, same with us.

The truth is these guys play an insanely violent game and have trained their bodies to the point that all of their connective tissue is at the breaking point at all times. This never used to happen when they all drank and smoked and used training camp to get in shape lol.

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They were the innovators using chiropractic care to keep their bodies healthy then . It was a “Gatorade” type advantage they say.

Told my buddy the same thing… doesn’t drink doesn’t eat bad. Orders edamame for a snacks. Gets all these tests and exams etc.

His hair is falling out, sleep apnea, etc.

I told him bro - more booze, more smoking, more drugs

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It’s why drunk drivers survive car crashes at a higher rate. They’re not tightly wound. NFL players have trained themselves so they’re always tightly-wound, of course they get hurt more often with all of the car crashes they experience during any given game.

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Scruggs was a highly touted C coming out of Penn St and was a day 2 pick. Mays was an OG coming out of Tennessee that converted to C to save his career as a pro. Neither has played well at OG in the NFL and I think Frazier might be better than either of them as an OG.

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