Per Football University’s chart, Goff’s time to throw falls below average (2.8 seconds from snap to release), which is 20th-most in the league so far this season. Leading the way in the category is Chicago Bears’ Caleb Williams with 3.42 seconds.
To the O-line’s credit, that is slightly better than the 2.7 seconds from last season, which was good for 35th among all QBs. However, it speaks to the prolonged issue the Lions have had protecting Goff since center Frank Ragnow’s retirement.
Goff, the QB with the reputation for “crumbling under pressure” and “needing an above average O-line to be effective,” has had to make play after play under pressure and with a below average O-line since the start of last season. Performances like this past Thursday show Goff can absolutely handle it far better than his reputation suggests, but with a rash of injuries to QBs this season, it’s nerve-racking watching Goff fight for his life in the pocket.
I think the starting OL will be good, w/the chance to be good for a good long time. The only real questions, IMO, are how soon and the LG position - can Mahogany and/or Bartch lock it down and stay healthy?
As it is:
Mays needs to get back and prove himself quickly
Bartch/Mahogs need to step up
The rook is obv the future at RT, but can he be above-avg right now?
Dan has been a coach for 5 years and has had one season that translates to any playoff success. Despite how some feel about Ben Johnson around here, he created a electric and feared offense. Dan needs to win a playoff game without Ben to get the “it was BJ” monkey off his back.
I give Dan credit for building a culture and a formidable team. And getting the Lions out of the cellar. But do I think he’s a top 5 coach? No. Top 10? Possibly, but probably not at this time.
And when say I average coaching…thats including Lynn, Morton and Shep. Goff and the offense hide flaws with this team. Take Goff off this team and we’re talking about a 6/7 win team here.
In fairness most teams who lose a starting QB of Goffs caliber aren’t winning a lot of games. As great a coach as mcvay is if they lose Stafford you think they are going to the playoffs? Hell you all look like the 3rd best team in the West right now with Stafford.
Time to throw is kind of a strange stat that has a ton of other factors. You really can’t draw much from it, especially with a small sample size. The eye test on how we well we are protecting based on what type of drop we are taking, and how many men are in our protection vs the rush is a much better indicator..
It’s week 2. Did you think the Rams were a contender after that week one game? Way to early to be deciding a teams season after 2 games.
I think mayfield and Herbert would probably look pretty good in Detroit. Stroud looks off to me but could be playing for a defensive HC and a bad OLine that’s slowing his development.
Honestly this is the reason I think Teslaa isn’t getting the ball. Short routes, crisp routes, or superior speed will get the ball when time is short. Go routes and 50/50 balls seems less optimal.
When you have a coach that’s been to two Superbowls you tend to give them more benefit of the doubt as opposed to the coach who hasn’t.
My coach called himself a “dumbass” and adjusted and kicked ass in week 2. The Lions looked exactly the same. Sure it’s only week 2. But it’s not like it hasn’t been the same issues plaguing Detroit.
Since the Lions took off Dan has one of if not the best Head Coaching records in the entire league. Everyone in the know in the league thinks Drew is a solid OC that at times did inspiring things in a bad ecosystem in Arizona. Kelvin is a work in progress. Obviously he’s up against it but young coaches often go through the fire and emerge more capable. We shall see.
HC far outweighs the importance of coaching. Calling out coaching average was clearly a Dan Campbell soft bash. Everyone knows your game by now.
it’s not that you’re not a homer. It’s that you don’t really know what you are talking about.
And you shouldn’t. You are not a Lions fan. You have no idea how difficult it was to lift this franchise out of a multi-decade funk. That ability to instill belief like that, to build the culture, to reset expectations is exeddinly rare. The Lions revival and the eventual Browns revival are just different beasts. Turning them around is a profound achievement. You wouldn’t really understand it. Not like we do. And again, you shouldn’t. You’re not one of us.
Dan is a terrific Head Football coach and we’re lucky to have him. We as Lions fans have the Head Coach that we deserve and the Los Angeles Rams have the caliber of fans that they deserve.
