Very true - Also Bo’s injury was miss handled on the sideline which lead to him developing AVN. Today’s sports have quality team doctors on site. How injuries are immediately handled makes all the difference in an injury like this. By the time the combine rolls around if Tua has AVN (Like Bo) then teams will know and his career over. But if he’s clear and participating in workouts than that’s another story and I think teams will be willing to take the gamble.
That’s McGahee
It’s starting to look like a lock that the Lions will trade down if Tua participates in the combine. I agree the guy is an unreal talent. His accuracy and spin on the ball are at an elite level.
Most likely Miami will grudgingly pay the Lions ransom because they’ve been tanking all year for a QB and have the draft ammo to do it.
I’ll also be ecstatic if Washington trades out of the #2 spot and Chase Young falls to Detroit. Either way this could be a monumental off-season for the Lions. Imagine Young and Dobbins/Taylor added to the team. Game changers!
Tua is not participating at the combine , Tua announced he is going to the combine so he can be seen by Doctors. In his words " Win My Medical "
Technically speaking he is participating…He will do nothing as far as working out or competing .
It’s more of the same from the media , "Tua announces he will participate at the combine " What???
That’s a great headline . Sounds so much better than the truth which would have read
“Tua announces he will let doctors medically check out his hip at the combine but will not work out or compete against his peers”
“Very busy with my new girlfriend who is absolutely super hot and totally real"
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I watched as well, he was also the exception and Lattimore was not the prospect Willis was.
Lattimore had had already suffered a torn ACL in the other knee he rehabbed from and Lattimore unlike McGahee suffered a complete dislocation of the knee as well with his injury.
Knee and hips are two different worlds as far as coming back from and with doctors as well …
Knee surgery’s and treatments now in 2020 are like oil changes and hip work is still extremely rare .
How do you sell that? I’m the GM …Listen (Owner) I want to invest a 1st round draft pick and a fully guaranteed $35 million dollars on QB Tua …Owner says he was special ,but is he still , has any player in the 100 year history of the sport played after such an injury ? GM : Well no , he would be the first, but doctors expect a full recovery as in the hip will be operational . Owner: At an elite athletic level ? The Doctor’s can’t say, they do not know, we have to invest the money first before we can find out and if he does it’s no guarantee he wont have problems in the near future that have not shown up yet .
Owner: Are you smoking crack ?
Just heard (per 97.1) that Tua IS going to the combine to compete.
Tua letting team doctors look at his hip is probably more important than doing any drills at this point.
I’m shocked he’s doing it.
That’s not what they said on NFL radio. They said he was planning to participate in the drills to prove he was healthy. Lofty goal for the kid if he pulls it off.
The combine and QB workouts take place in 27 days …he has not ran yet in his rehab . Quoting what he said on NFL Network …
“I’ll be participating in the combine but my main goal is not to win the 40, not to win the bench press but to win my medical. I’m going to go over there looking to win my medical and then go in and interview with the teams”
Tua said he will not being doing anything physical until his workout which will probably be right before the draft in April.
I’m not a TUA hater, love the kid and I hope for him he is everything he was prior to the injury , he is such a likable kid and his skills pre injury incredible…Such a devastating injury probably the worst ever to one of thee best prospects ever …I would not touch him in the first with our situation .
Tua, Te’o…this thread has the three letter T names covered!
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Here is what he said.
“I’ll be participating in the combine, but my main goal is not to win the 40, not win the bench press, but to win my medical,” he is quoted off an interview on the NFL Network.
“I’m going to go over there looking to win my medical and then go in and interview with the teams.”
Tagovailoa said he’ll take part in the quarterback workouts on Feb. 27, Tim Daniels reported.
The report said that Tagovailoa’s main goal is to show that he’s healthy.
He is not working out , that is nonsense …he said so himself today on Rich Eisen’s show that he is not doing physical stuff …he is not going to be cleared to do anything physical until 2/10/20 the earliest if everything checks out …Who are you going to believe the Media ? or Tua himself ? The spin the media puts on things is down right wrong …anything for a click . This kid would be the dumbest kid in the world to compete physically at the combine , it’s not remotely smart to do it at a Pro Day …I would not be shocked if he canceled it right before if he is told by a team they are taking him and would prefer he didn’t risk further injury to soon.
Regardless of who drafts him, if he can stay healthy somehow I think he’ll be great. That doesn’t mean the risk isn’t higher than Towelie though. Despite some other users’ past opinions, I think he’s more mobile than people give him credit for and he has a killer deep ball. He creates big plays in the pocket with great scrambling and has enough poise to not be in a rush to do it unless he has to. He has his flaws like anyone else but I think he’s gonna be REAL good if he can stay healthy.
One thing you have to think about outside of him is, how does it impact your O-line with a left-handed QB vs a right-handed? In general football strategy, typically with a R-H QB you put your best tackle on his blind side. When you change to a L-H QB obviously and you want to win now you would want to do the same but you can’t just lift and shift a LT over to RT very easily. It can be done and we’ve seen it done, but it was usually a demotion with a R-H QB. It seems like it would even impact Gs as well. It would take a couple seasons to build the ideal O-line for him.
Whoever takes Tua may have to do some serious O-line re-arrangement or just make personnel changes to accommodate him. Just another thing I’m sure some teams are thinking about. It may be irrelevant to certain teams but its got to be a factor.
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who cares what Trent Dilfer says?
Tua was a great prospect . Is he still , that is the only question.
As far as being left handed it has merit but not in the way it did years ago , the pressure comes from everywhere , if the right tackle is weak in pass pro they will attack it if it’s vice versa and it’s the LT the same applies or hell the A gap even and avoid the tackle all together .
I think Tua is the next great career backup QB…due to never staying healthy.
Actually, he’ll probably be more like Sam Bradford.
Your points are true and I wasn’t trying to say being left-handed in general was an advantage or disadvantage, but I was more or less going at the angle of how teams MIGHT struggle to protect him in his first couple seasons because of a weakness on his blindside. May have to shift players around and goof with chemistry if you had it. Then again if you got chemistry you can just trust it and hope the RT can handle the blindside pressure, which I feel from watching the league (without looking at stats) happens more often. Could be wrong but I still think it attracts some conversation in the war rooms.
I haven’t watched nearly enough of the guy, and from all reports he’s aces from the neck up which is great. But when I watch his throwing motion and mechanics, am I wrong that I don’t see elite traits? He looks to be able to get the ball over the top down the chute. That is rare to do consistently, but he looks like he can do it. He did seem to get the benefit of a lot of wide open guys. But for the most part, those WR’s aren’t having to break off their routes to get to the ball either. Dude is accurate. Not sure about the arm strength. I do not see elite zip just watching him throw, but maybe with viewing more snaps I’d see more. Probably just spoiled in the arm department.
I don’t know. I’m a huge consistent Stafford fan. But I did catch a thought today I had to further consider. “What if” Quinn could convince Martha to give Quintricia a “2 year plan.” Guaranteeing “excitement” a high first round pick to spend on an impact defender in the 5 to 7 range with Miami and LAC both looking for QB. If you did trade Stafford, and get one of those picks for it, you get Tua (if he’s 90% right) and you probably go get a good vet backup in FA. Then you get an Okuda, Brown or Simmons for your trouble. Any other position that Quinn takes outside of QB with the intention of starting him, keeps him on the one year or done path. Just a creeping thought. Most certainly hope we don’t. But preparing for the worst case scenario. We did take a TE at 8OA last year. Would hate a worse nut punch at 3…
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