Why haven’t we signed a #3 Safety to replace Iffy

Are we expecting Kerby and Branch to not miss any games all yr?

Morris was very bad on the field last yr. Strickland wasn’t good enough to get on the field. Jackson seems like a ST’er at best.

Tons of good options still on the market…

Seems like a plan for failure. As much as not signing ZaDarius is

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Dirty Dan Jackson would like a word!

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Most teams wait to see how the draft unfolds before filling those types of needs. Most veterans also like to wait until after the draft so they know what type of situation they are stepping into. In fact a lot of veterans that are on the market this time of year will wait until training camp so they don’t have to participate in OTAs.

I do agree though, it’s definitely a need.

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The Lions might like Morice Norris and Dan Jackson enough to be cool with it. Does seem light back there though. We signed Maddox too…

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I just want to say, how AWESOME is it that this is one of our major problems?
The number 3 safety is what, number 2 on our list of things to improve?
What a time to be a Lions fan!

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Curious on the performances of safetys 27yrs old?
I mean, thread is gonna get there at some point lets just knock it out early.

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Lmao

I’ve said since the signing that Maddox was the #3 Safety.
Obviously Maddox doesn’t have the Iffy size but he is better in coverage, tackles and blitzs well, in addition to playing a lot of Safety for the Eagles last year.
Dan & Brad LOVE versatility and Maddox can backup all 5 positions in the secondary.
I would like Brad to sign an experienced vet Safety but at the moment it is Maddox.

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He can play that NB/FS role that CGJ gave us when we signed him from Philly.

Maddox way cheaper and way better fit for our locker room. Hometown kid too.

Underrated signing.

Quandary Diggs ain’t coming back, Justin Simmons etc all these names we talked about last year for S3 ended up signing at training camp to start.

Maddox + Dan Jackson backup safeties.

I would like to see Rock ya-Sin get cross trained back there as well.

He’s CB6 at best.

Rock Ya-Sin same size as Devin McCourty who made the transition

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In Brad we trust… like he doesn’t have a plan?

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To be fair I was in this same camp last year to a lesser extent.

I hated the Moseley and Davenport signings, and the reliance on DPJ going into camp. The Moseley and Davenport fears were immediately confirmed, and so was DPJ, but then Brad pulled a Tim Patrick out of the hat…

We don’t have a single BAD contract on our books right now, and the only 2 that can even really be questioned at Glass and Barnes. Can GG return to 23’ form? Will Barnes provide enough juice to be relief on in the pass rush and justify his 3 yr 8M AAV price tag? Let’s keep in mind these are sub 9M per per deals, so that alone says something about what Brad and the “cap-ologists” have done.

Every 7-8M per bench player erodes the ability to pay top starters, top dollars.

The cap carries over, so spending an extra 12-15M on peace of mind is stealing 3-4M “per year” of of what a Branch or Laporta extension looks like.

Let’s say Z demands 10M and Simmons or Blackmon 6-7M.

A) if you were Blackmon at age 26 and coming off a solid year, would you pick being buried behind Branch and Kerby for your prove it deal? My guy says there is a contender that might have 800 safety/NB snaps available right now

B) if you were Holmes and watched a 59 rated season, after a 65 rated 2023 from Simmons- would you burn 6-7M of future cash? That’s 10% of Laporta’s next deal to hopefully not play, and or play badly. Also- if you were Simmons would you pick the bench in Detroit and effectively end your career?

C) Avonte Maddox has played NB, FS and SS and is 29 coming off a healthy 17 game season.

Again…

Hutch
Davenport
Hassanein/Muhammad

Karlaftis
Danna
FAU

Nolan
J Hunt
Huff

Joseph
Branch
Maddox

J Hicks
B Cook
Mike Edwards

S Brown
Blankenship
Makuba

FWIW teams start 2 DEs and 2 safeties typically. That’s the two teams who have managed 5 of the last 6 SB appearances between them and the last 3 wins…

The fact that Maddox and Davenport have proven quality NFL players when healthy, but we do also have rookie blood coming into to compete for DE2 and S3 is good enough for me.

When a team gets crushed by injuries it typically looks like what happened in SF or Miami last year… not 15-2

The reality is nobody other than Philly has better depth than us in the NFL.

I would say Hutch is the #1 edge
Kerby and Branch are safety #1 and #2

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No need to…we have dirty Dan Jackson

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Maddox hasn’t played a single snap at safety since 2018, his rookie season.

That was 8yrs ago.

How does this work here?? One of you just completely makes something positive up…and then all the rest of you pretend you know what you’re talking about and agree?

Quite an interesting dynamic on this board…

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The Lions appear to be higher on Strickland then the fan base is. I believe they are looking at him as the 3rd Safety.

Let’s be real. There’s no way Iffy would have been available

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Based on what, fellow UDFA rookie Norris dressing/playing instead of him the entire season?

Weird fantasy land you ppl live in…

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He was healthy and playing well at the end of the yr?

Much more than you can say for half of our defensive starters going into next season

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Blackmon is only 26?! Hmmm …

Maddox played Safety in 8 of the 18 games he played in last season, including starting in the Wild Card Playoff Game against the Packers.

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No. He played nickel back. That is not safety.

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