With the draft slots the salarys are pretty much set could they be issues with signing bonuses
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It would be a tragedy to see him jive talkin instead of showing us how deep is his love.
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Yeah, I’m curious what the hold up is.
Does anyone know who his agent is?
I did my best deep-dive. Looks like it’s a super secret thing for some reason.
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Lamar Jackson, if the length of time it takes to get a deal done is any indication
Practicing his autograph. Smart kid. Once you commit that’s what is going on the cards.
Its always signing bonus.
1/3 of 1st round picks have yet to sign. (Gibbs)
1/2 id 2nd round picks have yet to sign. (Branch)
So its not al that uncommon at all
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It is strange with the 1st rounders basically being paid based on draft position.
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Currently 1st round pick signings/unsigned look like this…
Signed
#3
#6
#7
#8
#9
#10
#11
#14
#18
#19
#20
#21
#22
#23
#24
#25
#26
#27
#28
#29
#30
#31
Unsigned
#1
#2
#4
#5
#12
#13
#15
#16
#17
So a total of 9 first round picks not signed yet.
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Why worry?
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Amen, As soon as he signs, he is set for life if he’s smart with his many Millions.
There will be no 1st round picks holding out once camp starts.
You started a joke.
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12 wants just slightly less than 11 got. 13 is waiting on 12.
15 thinks 14 didn’t ask for enough. 16 & 17 are waiting for 15.
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And, 6 was afraid of 7, because 7, 8, 9.
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It took me awhile but I found every first round picks agent/agency.
- Bryce Young – Ed Berry, Jimmy Sexton, and Patrick Collins of Creative Artists Agency (on-field), Athletes First (marketing)
- C.J. Stroud – David Mulugheta of Athletes First
- Will Anderson Jr. – Nicole Lynn and Kelton Crenshaw of Klutch Sports
- Anthony Richardson – Deiric Jackson of Legacy Sports Advisors
- Devon Witherspoon – Reggie Johnson and Tory Dandy of Creative Artists Agency
- Paris Johnson Jr. – Adam Heller, Greg Diulus, Sammy Spina, and Michael Simon of VMG Sports Representation
- Tyree Wilson – Erik Burkhardt of Roc Nation Sports
- Bijan Robinson – Nicole Lynn of Klutch Sports (on-field), Athletes First (marketing)
- Jalen Carter – Drew Rosenhaus, Ryan Matha, and Robert Bailey of Rosenhaus Sports Representation
- Darnell Wright – Jeremy Newberry of Octagon
- Peter Skoronski – Patrick Collins and Tommy Condon of Creative Artists Agency
- Jahmyr Gibbs – Todd France and Ryan Williams of Athletes First (on-field), Everett Sports Marketing (marketing)
- Lukas Van Ness – Kyle McCarthy and Brian Murphy of Athletes First
- Broderick Jones – David Mulugheta and Trey Smith of Athletes First
- Will McDonald IV – Jared Fox and David Butz of Sportstars
- Emmanuel Forbes – Andre Odom of Athletes First
- Christian Gonzalez – Reggie Jackson, Lukman Abdulai, and Tory Dandy of Creative Artists Agency
- Jack Campbell – Chase Callahan and Ryan Tollner of Rep1 Sports
- Calijah Kancey – Bradley Cicala and Olasoji Awe of Quality Control Sports
- Jaxon Smith-Njigba – Joel Segal and Ben Renzin of WME Sports
- Quentin Johnston – Doug Hendrickson, Alexis Ramos, Quincy Peyton, and CJ LaBoy of Wasserman
- Zay Flowers – Zac Hiller and Matt Leist of LAA
- Jordan Addison – Tim Younger of Younger & Associates (on-field), Rubicon Talent (marketing)
- Deonte Banks – Ben Renzin and Joel Segal of WME Sports
- Dalton Kincaid – Collin Roberts, Chase Callahan, and Ryan Tollner of Rep1 Sports
- Mazi Smith – Joel Segal of WME Sports
- Anton Harrison – Joe Panos and Todd France of Athletes First
- Myles Murphy – Tory Dandy and Lukman Abdulai of Creative Artists Agency
- Bryan Bresee – Todd France and Kyle McCarthy of Athletes First
- Nolan Smith – Trey Smith and David Mulugheta of Athletes First
- Felix Anudike-Uzomah – Tommy Condon, RJ Gonser, and Tory Dandy of Creative Artists Agency
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I’ve obtained my own representation for The Den: Silky Johnson, Buc Nasty, Pit Bull, Beautiful, and Mr. Roboto of Player Haters International (post content & quality) and Tyrone Biggums (draft day parties).
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It may be on the Lions end.
The signing bonus is going to be right around $10M, that’s not the issue.
The total contract is going to be fully guaranteed at around $18M, that’s not the issue.
The payment date of the signing bonus could be an issue (if the Lions want to make sure they have cash in bank to extend Jonah/Jared/others).
The 2024-2026 salaries (whether roster bonuses, workout bonuses or base salary), it’s all guaranteed but the bonuses are paid earlier in the year).
It could be Gibb’s agents have been busy with other players or the Lions group has been busy with other stuff and they just haven’t connected to hammer out all the minor details.
Branch and his agent are negotiating guaranteed money in the 3rd year. This is something that the agents and the player need to do for future draft picks. i.e. LaPorta got his entire 3rd year guaranteed plus $408K of his $2M 4th year salary, where the 34th pick in the 2022 draft (Christian Watson) got his 3rd year guaranteed, but only $150K of his 4th year.
The same thing with branch, his signing bonus will be slightly more than $2.8M and his total contract will be slightly more than $8M. The 45th pick in the 2022 draft (David Ojabo) got $700K of his 3rd year salary guaranteed. Branch and his agent and the Lions are arguing over that guarantee . . . . it’ll likely come in at around $1M of his 3rd year guaranteed. This is something they need to do for the NFLPA and future draft picks.
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Good information
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The pattern actually says something really interesting about the top half of round 1.
- Will Anderson (#3) is the outlier since 80% of the top-5 haven’t signed.
- From 12-16 OT Broderick Jones (#14) is the outlier since 80% of them haven’t signed either.
- Gibbs is in the norm for his draft range.
So, there’s apparently less negotiating room after the midpoint because 87% of the guys from 17-32 have signed.
It may not even be about the money. It could just be specific language in the contract. Who was the rookie that held out of OTA’s a couple years ago because his contract didn’t have clauses that protected him in case he was injured?
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