Welp. Looks like Disney didnt want to play nice.
YouTubeTV no longer has
ABC, ESPN, ESPNU, ESPN2, ESPNNEWS, Disney, Disney JR, Ect.
Hopefully a deal gets done soon
Thankfully Lions arnt On ESPN till the playoffs,
So as long as it gets done before Mid December with the CFP ill live
Trying to sell guys like me a $200 a month package just for football is going to be a tough sale. As in, I’d love to, but, I’m a somewhat responsible person and it’s unjustifiable.
Other than ABC, I really don’t care. Espn is really overrated. If you need it, it costs $11.99/mnth. Youtube TV says they are giving a $20 credit to subscribers. 
Sounds like a win for youtube tv subscribers.
It sounds like it’s Google, not Disney, playing hardball… Fox and NBC also had issues getting a contract done with them. I watch 90% of my Lions games on antenna, so this doesn’t affect me… They’ll get a deal done sometime soon, they always do… They’re not going to piss away millions of weekly viewers for very long
Well, YouTube is fighting to keep rates lower.
All the networks keep wanting to increase their pricing. More profits for shareholders, you know.
So if YouTube TV has to pay more to ABC then YouTube TV will have to pass that cost on to the customers increasing their rates more.
So the consumers should be on YouTube TV side.
So if you wanna write angry letters, write them to Mickey Mouse.
Yea, it’s really hard to say who to side with. I know Youtube has offered to reimburse customers the cost to buy the product independently (like giving the $20 credit now) and that’s because the networks want to charge providers a cost more than what they charge customers independently. For that reason, I tend to side with the providers, even though have have a strong dislike for cable/streaming providers.
Cable/streaming providers advertise having 100plus channels you can watch . . . of which I might watch a dozen or so. I’d love an ala carte menu.
I don’t think there are any good guys in this situation, but for context, Disney/ESPN own two (2!) direct competitors to YouTube TV, Hulu Live and the new ESPN Unlimited streaming service, which are where people will switch to if, for example, an entire weekend of football games is no longer on YouTube TV. So it’s not exactly a fair playing field.
I have no idea what the details are, since these negotiations rarely realease actual numbers. But it’s not hard to imagine that Disney, with the #2 live TV service and a new streaming offering that they’d love to give people a reason to check out, might decide it’s not actually a bad thing if college football gets yanked off YouTube for a week or two.
You can say that again…
I sold and installed the big satellite dishes back in the 80’s, at that time you could order ala carte channels. ESPN went for $20 a year, granted at that time I think there were only 2 or 3 ESPN channels. But you could buy most in small group of channels or individuals, was great.
Yeah at a certain point, even if money/budget isn’t the primary concern
We all gotta start collectively rejecting this nonsense they try to shove down our throats 24-7.
It’s the 2nd to last resort.
Yea, I found the timing of this interesting, although to be fair it is possible the contract came up right now. Right now being the same time ESPN is launching their streaming platforms for all things espn.
For me I have no interest in the ESPN offering as YTtv gives me the channels I want. This could force me to change, bastards. And it happens right after the SEC leaves CBS to go to ABC so if you want the SEC games you are forced to make a decision.
Well, I haven’t seen a $200mo package just for football anywhwere so not sure what @LionFrog is referencing. Talking as one who subcribes to Youtubetv for $85mo and the Sunday Ticket which isn’t close that number.
Hooray for streaming services. Isn’t it fun not knowing if you’ll be able to watch your teams play because some billionaires got into a pissing match over what amounts to a rounding error for them?
Unfortunately $20 will not allow you to buy the product independently.
It is more than just ESPN. ABC / ESPN / Disney / FX / Nat Geo and all the sub channels and networks.
Both Google and Disney are trying to hold patterns they have negotiated with other networks or carriers.
I think Google blinks first. It’s easy to cancel YT TV and switch to another streamer or stream ESPN Direct.
It’s not like the days of just cable where consumers had no other option.
Cut cable they say.
I think the last battle with YT TV with another channel happened just before the start of a sports season as well and they put in a temporary deal. Not sure if they signed a longterm deal later or not.
Hoping something happens before tomorrow am. Or, to the brewery or a trial with another service. Preferably not the HULU ESPN owned service.
Still prefer old android box and a good “streaming” service. Always available and never miss any sporting event.
Can you watch all of the games? You need Peacock, Prime…
We subscribed to Prime, Peacock. Netflix, Paramount for a long time and none of them were, or are, for sports. Prior to the B1G having Peacock only games same for Netflix and Amazon with the NFL so I have never looked as those as a requirement for a football subscription or cost.
So for me those don’t fall into the football or sports “only” subscriptions as our family uses them mainly for other shows. I am the only one that watches sports in my family.
My family gifts me the Ticket every year for fathers day/Christmas, Birthday one gift for the year. Four kids split the cost.
I buy the MLB package for around 160 a year which gives me all MLB and MiLB baseball.