Well, I’m not looking for the RB’s to get the 27 td production, I’m looking for the offense to replace the td’s not specifically the RB’s.
I believe I read recently that 17 of JW’s rushing TD’s came from within the RZ, 14 of them from within the 5yard line. So, I do believe this OL can repeat that rushing TD statistic from within the five yard line.
Don’t disagree with that but I think his mentality had the bigger impact on the team and in the locker room….”Let the dogs eat and stay yo ass on the porch” kind of shit! 
I perused a Bears board after this happened to scout out DM. Some of the same things we were saying from a teammate and locker room guy perspective with Jamaal, a few of their guys were saying the same thing. Now to what extent DM was vs. Jamaal was I have no idea.
And he was very comfortable, relaxed and playful in his opening presser here. Just like Jamaal. I guess we will see as we get to see him more and I assume will talk more once training camp gets here.
On topic: Based on this team, I think it would be a very tall task for Gibbs to do this.
Since the end of last season, they lost Chark, Williams, Swift and replaced them with Jones, Montgomery and Gibbs. They added LaPorta and lost nobody at Tight End. They lost Brown and added VaiTai and Glasgow. They’re going to add Jamo at some point.
What have they lost? Nevermind A LOT.
I do think Chark’s presence will be missed but that’s all I got.
I think you’re being a little pessimistic with your posts, I’ve seen it in a few threads.
There are a lot of overly optimistic posts around here to counterbalance that, to be fair. I just don’t see all this firepower that they lost on offense.
Yeah Montgomery’s not nearly as outspoken as Jamaal, he’s more of a lead by example kind of guy. Gibbs is the same, supposedly a very quiet guy.
But we have other guys who can stop into that rah-rah leadership role, we’ve already seen all the articles about Penei doing just that. Buggs, CJGJ, Sutton, ARSB, these are all voices that carry weight in the locker room.
That didn’t age well lol. Anthony Lynn was a huge bust, Staley is gone too, and AG has got to actually produce finally this year.
Dan did add some awesome coaches, like Ben Johnson and Hank Fraley - but the particular examples the author gave ended up being a little funny
Losing Jamaal Williams, an unreliable Swift, an unreliable Chark…Hock proved to be not missed at all…is a weird stance.
Monty>Jamaal
Gibbs=Swift, probably at worst (and I love Swift)
LaPorta is just a +
Marvin=Chark
I think it’s easily arguable we have more firepower headed into 2023. And Jamo is gonna put this offense over the top. Jamo included, there aren’t 5 teams who are as complete on offense as we are.
IMO of course
There’s a reason he’s making this stance on the offense…and I’ll just leave it at that.
Oh, yeah. We are going to miss his leadership and tenacity.
Said that as soon as they let him go.
Chark > Marvin, but I don’t think the Lions had a real choice.
They had Jamo coming back (free agency was about 5 weeks before the suspension), and Chark wanted the opportunity to be the No. 1 WR (which he wasn’t going to be in Detroit, but had the opportunity to be in Carolina after Moore was traded).
Marvin’s a reliable stop-gap in case someone gets injured.
When Chark actually plays I agree, but Marvin has been very durable the past 3 years. Chark had ankle surgery again this offseason. In the last 3 years, Marvin has missed 1 game. Chark has missed over 20 games in the same 3 seasons.
Yeah I would love to see what backs up that claim. Even if you take injuries out of it, Marvin is still better. The only thing thats true is Chark’s faster…that’s it.
Marvin Jones had a 56.8% catch percentage with 11.5 ypc on 46 receptions. 6 catches 20+ yards & 0 over 40 yards.
DJ Chark had a 57.7% catch percentage with 16.7 ypc on 30 receptions. 9 catches 20+ yards & 3 over 40 yards.
At least in 2022, Chark had a better, more explosive, season.
Dang that is explosive…no wonder he signed a massive deal in the offseason…
I said Marvin was = to Chark in my original post. Kind of pull ing hairs even if we are talking about ONLY 2022 and beyond.
But all good, if you want to believe Chark is better than Marvin moving forward I guess there’s merit to that due to Marvins age. But the Lions need reliable WRs which Chark isn’t.
Overall point, 2023 offense is better than the 2022 offense. Even without Jamo.
Had Chark qualified, he would’ve ranked 5th in the NFL in yards per catch:
So yeah, more explosive than Marvin Jones who is pretty much a possession WR these days.
I saw an interesting stat when Hopkins was released a few days ago.
Only 2 players have had 500+ receiving yards in EACH of the previous 10 seasons.
Hopkins and Robert Woods.
Marv was close…. just missed a season….
but has reeled off 8 straight since…
And this is why Chark is nothing special
Moved the goalpost.
The issue was/is Jones vs Chark.
It’s a near certainty that Chark will have a better season than Jones.
And, if Chark were on the Lions, he’d be more valuable than a 33 year old WR.
So, we will have to agree to disagree.
I really wanted to keep Chark but you have to wonder about his availability. He and Goff really got on the same page the second half of the season.
Where did I move the goalpost? Chark couldn’t get a real contract due to him being soft as baby ****. He is unreliable…that’s a fact. And there is nothing to support Chark is better or will have a better season than Marvin. Like I said, injuries aside, Marvin has outperformed Chark in his career…
I didn’t even say in my original post (that you made it a point to disagree with) that Marvin Jones was better than DJ Chark. I even called it a wash. And later I said due to Marvins age, Chark being better has merit.
I never moved the goalposts nor did I say your point was flat out wrong. Sure, agree to disagree then I guess.
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And just as a side note. Chark not qualifying due to not having the statistics to qualify proves he isn’t very productive and misses a lot of games. If you catch 3, 40 yard passes but only catch 30 passes total…you are gonna have an inflated ypc. Charks career yards per catch is 14.4. That’s what he should be judged on in terms of being explosive. His little 11 game, 30 catch sample size is just not significant enough to hang an argument on…IMO
Chark probably has another 35 catch, 525 yard season (to match his career averages). Marvin Jones probably has something close to that. Hence why I called it a wash
