Bears head coach Ben Johnson's contract 5 yrs $65 Million

[stephenboyd57]

@TouchdownMyPants

Then why was Ben told hands off our staff if you go to the Bears?

I mean he got a few guys off our staff. Not sure that part was accurate.

[CuriousHusker]

Cash dem checks, Ben.

[Dan01]

@TouchdownMyPants

Garrett gave the Browns loyalty… Did he ask to be traded to the Steelers/Ravens/Bengals?
The Rams gave Kupp loyalty… They gave him big money and he missed significant time 3 years in a row.

So they all gave loyalty until they didn’t. In the end business decisions were made in someone’s self interest, and in some cases some hard feelings developed.

Did Johnson show loyalty when he turned down the Commanders job and said instead he wanted to run it back with the Lions? There seems to be a lot of picking and choosing when it comes to when it’s ok to put business over feelings. Like I said in a different post, that often comes down to what fans view as a desired outcome. Sports fans may be the least loyal people on the planet.

@TouchdownMyPants

You say Campbell doesn’t think so? Then why was Ben told hands off our staff if you go to the Bears?

How did Randle El and JT Barrett end up there then?

@TouchdownMyPants

Johnson could’ve made tens of millions of dollars ANYWHERE he picked to be a HC… He picked Chicago…

Which teams offered Johnson a HC job, and how much were they offering? I didn’t comb through the info on every coaching search this cycle, so I likely missed these offers.

[KingSlappy]

Chicago certainly seems like the best opportunity. I don’t think it was a money grab.

[TouchdownMyPants]

@Dan01

Which teams offered Johnson a HC job, and how much were they offering?

We know he’s turned down jobs in previous cycles… He was the hottest name the last two years, he had a bag wherever he wanted to go.

[Dan01]

I was assuming you were saying he had his pick of lavish contracts this offseason. It sounds like only the Bears offered him an actual job with a significant contract.

[TouchdownMyPants]

@Dan01

I was assuming you were saying he had his pick of lavish contracts this offseason. It sounds like only the Bears offered him an actual job with a significant contract.

Yeah? Which teams did you talk to? I haven’t combed through all their phone calls and behind closed door conversations that always make it into the public. See, I can make open ended and dishonest statements that don’t advance the conversation. We ALL know Ben was the candidate several teams wanted, we know Washington was set to hire him last offseason until he pulled his name out of the running to the shock of most the football world. But hey, you keep asking for unprovable evidence, I’ll keep offering up common knowledge and you can keep ignoring it. Round and round we’ll go

[Dan01]

Correct, we know he had an offer last year and chose to run it back with the Lions. We know of one this year. I’m not the one saying he had all these other options on the table, that’s you.

But yes around and round we can go with this. You are upset he went to the Bears, I don’t get it, but I don’t need to understand it. It’s all good man.

[LionFrog]

@Dan01

I did respond to it. I haven’t read anything saying the Lions or Campbell were offended. Quite the opposite actually

Thank you, Chicago!
For taking that traitor out of our midst.

[Tcmouse]

@TouchdownMyPants

gain… He had his pick of jobs that would’ve paid him handsomely as HC, he chose a division rival… Any way you slice it, that shitty IMO

But you have to choose were you think you have the best shot it’s hard enough to have success , while everyone here hates on williams ben seems fascinated by what he can bring. Will see , wonder what this place would be like if Ben comes in here a beats us with Williams and the Bears, they were not cake walks before.

[Dan01]

@Tcmouse

wonder what this place would be like if Ben comes in here a beats us with Williams and the Bears, they were not cake walks before.

That’s the true fear people have. They hate him for that possibility, but it’s a same old lions mindset. This team is made of competitors and competitors don’t fear it. They can’t wait for it. The better this division is, the better the Lions will be down the stretch.

[TouchdownMyPants]

@Tcmouse

@TouchdownMyPants

gain… He had his pick of jobs that would’ve paid him handsomely as HC, he chose a division rival… Any way you slice it, that shitty IMO

But you have to choose were you think you have the best shot it’s hard enough to have success , while everyone here hates on williams ben seems fascinated by what he can bring. Will see , wonder what this place would be like if Ben comes in here a beats us with Williams and the Bears, they were not cake walks before.

I get that… I get it’s a business… I personally don’t shit where I eat. Even if someone said it didn’t bother them in the slightest… If they helped me get to where I was, I couldn’t go on my own and be their direct competition… Maybe I’m weird but that stuff matters to me.

And I’ve never shit on Williams, I think he has a TON of potential and could be a top QB in this leave… IFFFF he gets his head right. Can Ben unlock Caleb and get him to have the mentality necessary to dominate the league? Idk… I don’t think so… I really hope not… But the kid has the physical ability to be special.

[Tcmouse]

I think Williams is the reason he took the Job Ben sees something, Having a QB in place really helps a guys success , now we have to wait and see if Ben is right. If he is wrong he probably won’t last long there

[Snags]

There’s a video of someone saying Ben cammed him in November asking him if he’d be interested in being on his staff if he got a Head Coching job.

Not sure if this considered tampering or not but Ben’s head was thinking about other things other than getting to a Superbowl.

[Richard_Parker]

@stephenboyd57

Ben is more of the next Marty Mornhinweg

I seriously doubt that

[Gitche]

@Tcmouse

@TouchdownMyPants

gain… He had his pick of jobs that would’ve paid him handsomely as HC, he chose a division rival… Any way you slice it, that shitty IMO

But you have to choose were you think you have the best shot it’s hard enough to have success , while everyone here hates on williams ben seems fascinated by what he can bring. Will see , wonder what this place would be like if Ben comes in here a beats us with Williams and the Bears, they were not cake walks before.

We played them with half of a defense, maybe not even that. Both times.

[Richard_Parker]

@Snags

There’s a video of someone saying Ben cammed him in November asking him if he’d be interested in being on his staff if he got a Head Coching job.

Not sure if this considered tampering or not but Ben’s head was thinking about other things other than getting to a Superbowl.

If this is true then that theory/excuse or blame for the loss to Washington goes out the window

[Snags]

@Richard_Parker

@Snags

There’s a video of someone saying Ben cammed him in November asking him if he’d be interested in being on his staff if he got a Head Coching job.

Not sure if this considered tampering or not but Ben’s head was thinking about other things other than getting to a Superbowl.

If this is true then that theory/excuse or blame for the loss to Washington goes out the window

Whaat theory, excuse, or blame are you referring to? I’m confused.

[Richard_Parker]

@Snags

@Richard_Parker

@Snags

There’s a video of someone saying Ben cammed him in November asking him if he’d be interested in being on his staff if he got a Head Coching job.

Not sure if this considered tampering or not but Ben’s head was thinking about other things other than getting to a Superbowl.

If this is true then that theory/excuse or blame for the loss to Washington goes out the window

Whaat theory, excuse, or blame are you referring to? I’m confused.

The backlash after the playoff loss to the Redskins. Some on this board are saying Ben’s head was already in Chicago and he had a bad game plan in the game against the Skins because of it. But if Ben was preoccupied with his next job back in November then why didn’t he have bad game plans subsequently and why didn’t it lead to more losses?

[stephenboyd57]

@Richard_Parker

@stephenboyd57

Ben is more of the next Marty Mornhinweg

I seriously doubt that

Wishful thinking he’s a Bear now. The enemy. I hope he has heartburn and nonstop explosive diahhrea the entire time he’s a Bear.