Both Coordinators Sucked Today

With a RB that works better in a RBBC.

Gibbs looked better in 2023/2024 when he had Monty splitting carries with him.

Gibbs is a better player in a timeshare than he’ll be as the sole, lead back.

As I’ve said before, if we continue to play Gibbs like we did today we’ll maybe get 12 games out of him this season.

5 YARDS PER CARRY. 2 TD’s. What else do people expect? Yeah damn, if Monty was here, Gibbs goes for 6 YPC and 8 TD’s easy…

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I dont want to give gibbs as many touches as he got today and i doubt we do frequently moving forward, but outside of emotions your entire post is well blank…

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2 things can be true though.

Gibbs is awesome. Check

Getting 30 plus touches a game not sustainable. Check

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I guess what I’m trying to say is that the running game looks disjointed with Gibbs as the lead back getting all of the carries.

Something was “off” in the running game last year and that same thing seems to be “off” today.

I don’t have as much football knowledge to correctly label what that “off” thing is.

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I’m going to take a stab here Storm on what they’re trying to say. I think the concern is how Gibbs will look with the wear of a long season. Even if he’s healthy enough to play, his legs will be shot and the quickness that makes him so dangerous won’t be there. In other words, how sustainable is running him like today possible without someone reliable to spell him?

Edited to say @stephenboyd57 best me to it.

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It’s not like the issues aren’t fixable.

  1. Stop giving up big plays. One of the reasons everyone hates our style of defense (I’m not a fan either) is because it’s high-rish, high-reward. We need more reward if the risk is going to keep burning us, and in fairness we did get a little more of that today (which is why they were goose-egged for so long).
  2. Catch the ball.
  3. Do better in high-leverage situations. We managed to get the Saints in plenty of low-quality down and distances but we couldn’t make them pay at a level commensurate with it.

Improve in those areas and things will look much better.

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It’s the OL. They are not as good as 2024, not even close.

As far as wear and tear, yes, that is always a concern for any RB. Saylors probably should’ve gotten some more carries. I saw nothing from Vaki as a RB, and don’t know why they even bother. He had 1 catch, that’s about it.

Also, if the Lions are praying that Pachec-slow fixes the RB room, they will be very disappointed.

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You have zero evidence supporting this… Gibbs had almost 200 yards of offense today… Put the pipe down

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Sarcastic Charlie And The Chocolate Factory GIF

Saying Jahmyr Gibbs got bottled up today is insane and if you are afraid of running him up the middle then you don’t want him on the team.

Salary cap wise and basic football strategy says you have to run him up the middle

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Its flat out stupid

Need to probably throw a few darts at some mid/late round guys for next year in the backfield. Outside of that i dont think the running game was the issue, offensively it was poorly timed penalties and dropped/bad passes that killed the drives not the running games flow or even necessarily the oline. I feel like the oline was better compared to last season.

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I’m not buying that.
Here are their last 7 games, nothing here says offensive juggernaut and Shough didn’t put 400 yards up on anyone, over 300 only on the Titans and Jets, middling defenses last year

Well, Hutch is on track for 34 sacks this season…so there’s that :slightly_smiling_face:

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That team today looked eerily similar to last years team.

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He went 5-4 took over mid year and from what i saw had the most comeback wins last year. We can likely balance this somewhere between Shough maybe decent and improving, he isnt great and lions made him look better, or he is trash and lions defense made him look good.

Can we agree that based on his prior performances last year it is more likely option 1 and 2 vs 3?

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In 2024… the Lions had Frank Ragnow, Kevin Zeitler, and a somewhat healthy Decker.

Yep, you’re right, my bad. They were top 5 over the final 6 weeks and Shough was top 5 in efficiency, but I definitley overstated their success. That’s what I get for trying to do it from memory. BUT, they are quite liked as a darkhorse by the analytics community because of their offense.

Really not liking Bartch that much today. That holding call on the 1 yard line…