Can Det win from a CAR, NYG, ATL, SEA need at QB?

If the best bet for the 2nd over pick is Willis according to sportsbooks. Lets assume QB needy teams see it this way.

Is there a way that by the end of April CAR, NYG, ATL, SEA are interested in moving up to get the signal caller? Or is that just too far for them to climb. I really think the key here is Seattle. If they want to move in front of CAR, NYG, and ATL it seems like Hou and the Jets are the only other avenues to get there.

I know this is wishful thinking but turning #2 into 2 - 1st rounders would help Detroit more than Kayvon Thibodeaux would. Perhaps T.Walker or G.Karlaftis paired with Nakobe Dean, then Brister or Cine at the end of the round with 32. Huge improvement on D.

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The Panthers and giants could get it done just by swapping firsts with us and giving us their first next year, I bet.

Seattle would have to give us 9, 72 and a first next year. The Falcons would be a similar trade.

I imagine we might also be able to grab 5 and 7 from the giants for 2 and 66.

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9, 40 and 41 plus a late rd matches the newer trade charts.

6 of the top 67 in this draft fills a lot of holes

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I just did a mock based on a trade with the giants where we get picks 5 and 7.

  1. Travon Walker
  2. Drake London
  3. Brisker
  4. Asamoah

That’s four new starters in just the first two rounds. It’s basically the same as staying put, though. If we stay put I mock them

  1. Thibz
  2. Sky Moore
  3. Brisker
    4 Asamoah

So really you’re trading tibs and Sky for Walker and London. I think that’s probably worth doing.

5 and 7 are chart. I don’t think they’re getting chart to move back. It just depends on how much they’re willing to give up point wise per the chart as to whether or not they’ll find a trade partner.

2 for 5 and 36, looks like a dog deal. But if the Lions have a blanket of players that all rank the same on their board and they’re guaranteed to get one of the. At 5 anyway, do you help yourself by getting that extra second?

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I don’t think the Giants are ready to move off Jones yet. I think they’ll give him a legit shot this year and who knows, Daboll worked magic with Josh Allen and Jones has a lot of similar traits.

However I do think Seattle and to a lesser extent Carolina are in play, if Willis is really being looked at this highly as a prospect and it’s not just media hype. I think we better hope it’s real if we want to trade down, because a deal for Willis is our best bet.

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Carolina doesn’t really seem to have much ammo to move up with, unless they’re giving up picks next year.

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Agreed but I’d do it for their #6 pick and next year’s 1st, in a heartbeat.

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Jeremy Chinn, #6, and 2nd next year

What about Houston at #3?

They may be in the market for a QB if they don’t land one in a Watson trade.

Why would Houston trade up 1? Well, Brad Holmes potentially has CAR, NYG, ATL, and SEA…on the other line, ready to move up.

Drop down 1…still land the guy you wanted at #2— and add more beanz.

I want the 2nd this year if at all possible. Very deep draft through round 2 this year.

As much as I want to deal down for picks if Hutch is gone, reality is it’s rare to be able to call that shot. I know, I know… there were a bunch of trades last year, and the year Goff and Wentz went 1:2.

But this year is devoid of those premium type talents at QB. The good fortune required to get an offer this year is a massive long shot and as much as I would love to add picks, the fact is, I just don’t see it happening. Love to be proven wrong.

Nobody will think Willis is worth chart value to move up.

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Doesn’t that depend a LOT on how bad they think they need a QB?

Oh I agree it’s almost certain we’re staying put. It’s just that if Willis’s rise is legit I think our chances have improved from like .2% a month ago to maybe 5% now. It’s worth talking about at least, even if it ends up being wasted breath.

Hypothetically, Indy loves Willis. Would you trade #2 for:

#42, 71, 82, 122 and Indianapolis first in '23 and '24?

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In a heartbeat.

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If ATL trades for Watson, then trades Ryan to Indy, that would leave CAR, NYG, and SEA.

NYG’s flirtation with Trubisky suggests the new coaching staff isn’t in love with Daniel Jones. And, Brian Daboll, whose offense was lead by a mobile strong armed QB, could be interested in Malik Willis.

SEA–no way they go into the season with Drew Lock as their No. 1 QB and they have the ammunition to move up if they so desire.

CAR–Owner David Tepper has been desperate for a star QB and, having missed out on Watson, becomes a strong candidate to move up to make sure someone else doesn’t leap ahead of them to get a QB right after the Jags take Hutchinson. However, with CAR, you’re looking at No. 6 overall and draft picks from 2023 because they don’t have another pick until No. 137 overall.

Agreed. Just so long as none of us gets our hopes up ala 2020 when Quinn claimed there were no offers and we all knew he was lying.