Christian Gonzalez wins rookie defensive player of the month

But AA and Malcolm are showing we did.

I disagree. I think AA is severely underrated by this fan base and i personally always loved Barnes. I get it’s risky to gamble on him as a project but I was willing to take the bet

Barnes himself talked about the light turning on IN camp. Im sorry but you cant pass on a player bc yiu hope a guy going into hia 3rd year turns it on. ROdrigo is bad…he is a ST role player…Jack was a great pick. And once again…Gonzo was not on high on brad’s board…jack was HIGHER…his corners were witherspoon and branch…

He has improved, I agree, but JC will replace him starting next year if not by the end of this year and be an improvement.

Christian and Campbell on the board and you would take Campbell?

For the record I thought Gonzalez was a bit soft and haven’t really watched him play but player of the month is a pretty big deal.

Let’s see

Yes…brad 100% would have.

Also cool… player of the month…we all.want bigger and better things. He is good. Our guys are good. Ours fit us…jack campbell IS a dan campbell clone…gonzo IS soft.

He’s actually an above average tackler but the primary is he’s straight lockdown. Going as long as he did against Hill with those stats is just kinda crazy for your second game and Hill said as much. Hill said he was a pro bowler at present.

I think Gonzalez was at the top of their board at 17. Unfortunately we picked 18.

Yup, it is what it is. Gonzalez has off the chart measurables and sometimes that makes you overthink. Told everyone at the time I thought he was great but I’m not management. Irony is Witherspoon actually looks good as well but he’s not lockdown island like Gonzales. On to the next. I trust this staff for once.

I think it’s also a case where Gonzo landed in the best possible situation and scheme. Belichick is the player development master on the defensive side of the ball, and i think he especially excels with defensive backs. And they have clearly schemed in a way where they’ve given him a very narrow set of responsibilities, which is exactly what you want to do with a young player. I’m not convinced that he flashes this way if he landed somewhere else.

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What tells you thay other then your gut and personal desire for the lions to take him?

Watch the reaction when Gonzalez comes off the board vs every other pick. Banging the table when Gibbs was available, Dans fist pump when Aiden was available. When Gonzalez is drafted, its silence, no celebration. They take a second and then move on business as usual. Not saying they were disappointed with Jack, they obviously liked him, but its pretty obvious he wasnt their first choice.

You are reading into things…he wasnt ever a consideration.

I think its time you rewatched the Inside the Den episode. Stark contrast in their reactions.

I’ve moved on because it’s in the past but this opinion is a misconception. Belichick has seen something in this kid because if you watch their games he is scheming Gonzalez to the opponents best WR play after play. It is not some “they are hiding him in their D” kinda thing, it is actually the opposite, they are locking up a section of the field because he is a better athlete than most NFL receivers and that can’t be taught.

Its clear you believe this to be true. There are behind the scenes stuff that you are not aware of that says gonzo was never ever going to be in detroit…but continue w the narrative of “just imagine if we had gotten Gonzo AND Gibbs??”

Then how do you explain the lack of excitement when Gonzalez went off the board? Completely out of character for this staff.

And ive never said i wanted Gonzalez and Gibbs, i think Gibbs was a horrible pick at 12. Im just trying to infer what the staff is thinking.

me to.

My favorite two were Christian Gonzalez and Deonte Banks. At corner, I want the big athlete.