Draft talk 2025/2026

I actually disagree. This team is very close to that team. I think you are really overly harsh on the current state of things. Your prerogative, and we definitely have some things to sort out, but the bones of this team are every bit as good imo.

And while I always thought Ben would be a great HC, said as much from the moment he was hired, I don’t think his loss hurt us nearly as much as the current narrative. We were still a top 5 offense with revolving door at multiple iOL spots and a greatly downgraded Decker. I think even if Ben had been here, we would have had similar struggles.

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I would believe it more if we didn’t lose our awesome safeties. IMO, that is what really sets us back. Before those injuries I was thinking we could probably get some upgrades on the OLine and pretty much keep rolling. Still…I’m curious to see what Brad has up his sleeve.

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It sucks for sure, but just look at the safeties on most of the good teams. Nothing but 4th rounders and UDFAs in the Super Bowl. Yes, we had the advantage of two studs, but even with those guys at their peaks we weren’t better than Seattle. There’s more than one way to skin this cat.

For instance, add someone like a Byard in FA (NOT Byard, but someone like he was going into last season), draft an overhang elite coverage LB like Kyle Louis, then add a nickel like Ponds. Suddenly we’ve added a lot more speed to our middle third, vet savvy from the safety to cover some of what Branch gave us, electric run-and-chase capabilities especially if Tyleik keeps improving, and total dawgs. Replacing Kerby’s deep skills are an issue, but he was always a unicorn in that respect. No other team has anyone like him, and yet there are still plenty of good defenses around.

And that’s but one option.

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I was checking out some prospects and saw DE/Edge Akheem Mesidor mocked to the Lions and now my brain won’t stop telling me that he’s a BH guy and he’s going to be drafted. He’s going to be a 25 year old with past injuries. He;s listed at 6’3 which is a hair short and might be shorter come combine time and is 280lbs. He looks like a beast and might be that DC guy. I won’t lie i love me some bigs, and guys who can play in, out, and help with the run but this kind of reminds me of Paschal.

See, I think for all his size, he plays a finesse game. That’s my biggest problem with him. Bigger than the age issue (which is also pretty big, I mean he’s almost the same age as Hutch).

My favorite prospects right now are OT Kadyn Proctor and DE Keldric Faulk for similiar reasons which is their size. With Proctor I just can’t help it. There’s nothing more I love than that big physical style. I think Proctor is a little bit of a gamble we’ve all talked about him before, but Faulk to me looks like a superstar and the right kind of big DE. I don’t think either of them will be there though.

You should watch Dametrious Crownover. He’s bargain basement Proctor, but maybe good enough to stick at T (in fact I think he has a better chance than Proctor, though I think both probably end up as guards).

There are also lots of super-sized power edges in this class. DDS, Jacas, Anthony Lucas, Zion Young. Outside of Lucas they may not be as big as Faulk, but most of them offer more as pass-rushers. For all of Faulk’s positives, pass-rushing isn’t one of them. He’s young enough to improve - in fact I think that’s the bet most people are making - but he’s got a long way to go right now. Will be a plus run defender from day one though.

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Good! Then maybe they’ll be available in late or 2nd round :upside_down_face:

Yeah definitely “Planet Theory” guys where God doesn’t make dudes like them so when you get a chance to take one don’t miss it. One of the reasons I like Max I. so much is that he is big and has all the size/traits but also is pretty decent in pass blocking. Whereas with Proctor that dude is really up and down. I know some of it had to do with weight possibly. Seems like a good OLine coach is what he needs.

Proctor is a really crazy explosive linear athlete, I wouldn’t be surprised if he jumped 30+ inches and ran under 5.0 even at 360 plus. Given his size, I expect his RAS to be outrageous.

UNLESS he does the 3-cone and SS. For all of his linear explosiveness, his lateral agility is really lacking. Of course I highly doubt he does the 3-cone or the SS - his agent should be fired if he does - so by draft day all of the networks will be going on and on about what an elite athlete he is. And he is, in one way, but he isn’t in another. I mean I don’t think he’s athletic enough to hold up at tackle. He might be - I could be wrong about that - but the fact that it’s even a conversation should tell you plenty.

James Foster charts pass rush moves and categorizes them into power and finesse/speed.

Surprisingly out of every day 1 or 2 Edge Mesidor had the lowest tendency to opt for power approaches out of all of them.

He was also one of if not the most effective when utilizing finesse.

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I mean yeah i love the size but these guys I mentioned are more than likely 1st round picks. They have legit potential. Otherwise we alrready have Manu and we had Bromart. I like Faulks play a lot. To me that guy has crazy potential. I’m a big fan of big DE’s and he’s that big that BH likes. Inide, outside, run stopping versatility. Run stopping his huge for me. And hes the right kind of big. Not short with a history of injuries. That’s their guy.

I don’t want the finesse guys. Theres too many LT tweeners in this draft. Like 6’7 300lbs.

Wow. Okay. One thing I like about you is you aren’t afraid to stick your neck out. I get what you are saying though. I like Proctor’s upside. I think my biggest concern is pass blocking and his ability to fit into what we like to do running. Our tackles move a lot in our scheme. Assuming we basically keep it.

He needs to be less fat. If he can get to normal OT fat then I think he could really be something. But his nickname is Krispy Kreme so …

Right, and I can’t remember where I was first alerted to look for it, it might have been him. But once you go into Mesidor’s tape wanting to see that bull rush for yourself… well, it’s just non-existent. He’s basically an interior DPR (check out the difference between his pressure rate lined up outside vs inside, it’s striking), killing the interior guys with his juice. But interior DPR is a really strange profile and most teams aren’t gonna go for someone that specialized.

That he is, and not only that he’s already a captain at a super young age and supposed to be a great kid. Our FO will like him for sure. I was sky high on Faulk coming into the year, but he did not have a good 2025. Still, the upside as a power end is plain to see, though I doubt he’ll ever go too far in solving our pressure problems.

Mesidor is the finesse guy we’re talking about.

The thing is, I don’t really feel like I’m sticking my neck out. The lateral athletic issues are all over his tape. He gets beat over and over again by quickness, especially across his face, then he overcompensates for it and gets beat outside. The argument for him isn’t an argument for the player he is, it’s for the player people hope he will become (which isn’t all that unusual at OT). But in Proctor’s case, that means doing something to improve his lateral quickness, either through better technique - he’s got plenty of improvements to make there - or as @CuriousHusker says, by losing weight. Most of the bets on him fall into this latter category, the belief is if he’s THIS athletic at 360 - even if it’s predominantly linear juice - imagine what he’d be like at 330!

Personally, I’ll just let someone else make that bet. The vast majority of guys who struggle with weight never fix it, especially if they don’t start fixing it in college. There’s also a real dearth of gigantic OTs who actually make it in the league. You can count the hits on one hand, and they all had one thing in common: preternaturally light feet for guys that size. Ogden, Mims, Mailata and his freaky 6.66 3-cone. To me, that is not Proctor. Not as he is now.

Anyway I’m certainly not alone, there are quite a few people who’ve been keeping track all season who view him the same. In fact on the sicko boards like reddit for people who follow the draft all year, it had sort of become the norm. Now guys who are coming back to it after other obligations like DJ and Zierlein are bumping him back up, and no doubt his testing will do the same.

Maybe you just have a freakishly long neck. :man_shrugging:

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