I don’t know. I think that’s what the Cardinals did with Murray, and they likely regret it now. Cut him early, and draft a new guy. The wage scale makes it so they don’t break the bank at first.
I suppose arguments can be made for both sides.
And the hardest thing for all involved, is that loading your team with talented football players doesn’t always matter. Cause you have to have a certain mindset to succeed in the nfl. Great college tape doesn’t always translate to great NFL play if the players head isn’t in the game.
College success does not always translate to the NFL due to players just “out Athlete” the other players (Jami).
And even once in awhile you get a Cam Newton who for a few season can get buy on freakish athletic ability.
Let’s not kid ourselves. Lamar’s issue is clearly melon juice. And how much longer do you think he will get by on his freak abilities.
It is a weird and unpredictable game the NFL. Because while it is obvious that being really smart helps you, sometimes and maybe often it is just athletic prowess that wins out regardless.
All of this is why the game is so enjoyable to watch for me. The unpredictable nature is enjoyable.
Kwesi went to Princeton and then got his masters from Stanford.
And ARSB was born an athlete by bloodline.
It doesnt matter if you’re smart and educated, those guys can be just as dumb or dumber than the dumb jocks.
If your theory held any weight then the NFL owners would just be hiring the smartest and most well educated people they could find.
Sorry, I dont think what you’re saying is correct at all.
Trey Lance, Malik Willis, Trubisky, Mariota - all might have been decent in the right system. Unless its against the Lions, its great to see these guys (Darnold, Mayfield, Smith) turn it around.
First of all… hope you’re feeling better Nate, yikes.
But I think guys like Darnold are a function of the modern NFL, not stupidity or bad coaching. (Except the Jets, they are clearly historically morons and bad coaches—good luck AG. And also Kwesi was dumb to roll the dice on JJ over an obviously proven commodity at that point. But I digress…)
What I mean is, I suspect there were coaches at every stop in Darnold’s career who thought he could be a solid starter if they had a few years to work with him. But there is no spot on a modern NFL roster to stash a guy for the few years it (reasonably!) takes to learn how to be an NFL quarterback. Not really anybody’s fault, it’s just no longer possible to treat players in anything other than 1-2 year timelines unless they are already studs.
I commented earlier but forgot to answer the question presented. Yes nfl teams are dumber than we give them credit for. In fact most large companies are.
NFL coaches have about 3 years to get it right before they’re out of a job. Once a QB flames out, why would any other coach risk a 1 of 32 job in the world on them? It’s not that NFL teams are necessarily “dumber” - it’s that once you’re damaged goods, especially at QB, there is very little incentive for a coach or organization to take a risk on you. In Sam’s case, he was lucky enough to be seen as a bridge guy and then JJ had his knee injury and the entire season was all but assured for him.
I’m sure more QBs would turn out like Sam if given the opportunity after more time in the NFL, but there just isn’t opportunity for these guys because very rarely is a new coach going put his coaching into a QB who hasn’t shown that they can be good in the NFL.
The desperation to find “him” has always plagued nfl teams, and always will. Patience isn’t a virtue of most fans, so many front offices will mirror that urgency and try and “shoot their shot.”
Why do OTs have to be 6’4 and 315 plus, with 33.5” plus arms to really be taken seriously at LT? Some teams have even tighter criteria. Same with DE as you see Bain fall for arm length, Meisdor fall for age/medical, or Parker for a slip in production?
Yet we can excuse a 5’10” QB (Murray), a guy with terrible college production and medical concerns (AR15), and or very little body of work (Lance/Trubisky)….
Once we remove the anomaly that TB12 will forever be…. As he started about 47% of the SB he was eligible to play in over his illustrious career (minus rookie year with no starts and ACL season), it kind of wrecks the data- lol
What’s left?
Brady x 7
Mahomes x 3
Big Ben x 2
Peyton x 2
Eli x 2
Dilfer, Brad Johnson, Brees, Erin Rodgers, Flacco, R Wilson, N Foles, Stafford, Hurts, Sam Darnold….
Really look closely at that group with “one ring” and tell me there is any real formula to follow?
What I can tell you is the list of QBs taken inside the top 5 that have won a Super Bowl for the team that drafted them? Eli x 2, and Peyton x 1 in this century.
