Former Bucs player rips Carlton Davis

Makes me nervous a bit. We dealt with it last year with our “#1” cb

I love this stuff.
Every team in general feels they get better when they lose a player and get better when they get a player. It matters not it seems who comes and who goes. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

I think we all wanted some change at CB. So change has happened. I will say that one can not just look at a play or 2 and say a player stunk. When Barnes whiffed on that sack of Dak was it really the DBs fault hat he gave up the TD to Lamb??? So just because Davis gave up a big play does not in itself mean he was bad. The whole scheme and the play called matters.

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Meh, I think we are still better now than we were last year with regards to the DB’s.

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I mean in all honesty, who ever mentioned Carleton Davis & Amik Roberson as something to get excited about for starting CBs until we got them

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Never even heard of this guy!

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I don’t remember the gentleman that offered his fine opinion of CD. Ian Beckles played for the Buccaneers from 1990-1996. Seems a little dated.

I think it is fair to point out that CD did have a down year last year. I am not sure that is a particularly hot take.

However, a down year doesn’t make him dust and I do have some belief that a legitimate portion of his “down year” was Tampa playing to his weakness. I do expect a bit of a bounce back this year based on how I expect that we will utilize him.

Now to go out of your way to throw shade on someone you never played with… well the headline is worse than the actual comments but still not overflowing with class.

At the end of the day, I do believe CD improves our CB room. I am bummed about our loss at CB. Room would have been comfortable if Sutton was still in play. (but I do believe the Lions did the right thing in their handling of that.)

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In all honesty, I’m still not. I hope I’m wrong, but I think the Lions are treading water so far, and the draft rarely provides immediate help at CB

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I will say that at worse the Lions are no worse. And I do like the ide that maybe just maybe the change in scenery will help both players.

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Before this past year I was really high on Davis as a player. I think I even mentioned him as a possible trade candidate or FA addition back in like 2021, and I know @CuriousHusker did a couple of times, as recently as March 1st:

He had his struggles as they played more zone this year, but when he’s on his game he’s one of the best in the league (just listen to Ja’Marr Chase).

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Doesn’t Ian Beckels sound like someone that you didn’t know existed until the Ryder Cup was on your TV?

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THIS!

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To be fair that isn’t saying much. DBs were dreadful last year.

I’m concerned the DBs are yet again the thing that keeps this team from the Super Bowl. Hoping Holmes comes through with a DB or 2 in the draft.

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Or Marshon Lattimore.

I literally just posted an example of someone mentioning Davis on March 1st, two weeks before the start of FA. And there were many others too.

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You did and are correct. I also think many aren’t looking at how both, two db additions, were used in their previous team and how Detroit will utilize them.

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Take a deeper dive at their metrics for zone or man/press coverages with their previous teams. @Thats2 and @CuriousHusker as well have discussed this.

It should alleviate some of, if not a lot of, that concern.
And I agree that BH should still add a DB or 2 in the draft.

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Yes Carlton played mediocre last year. They square peg round holed him making him play 85% zone. He is only an average cb in zone coverage. He is very good at man. He barely played any man snaps last year so he didnt play to his strengths. He is the opposite of cam sutton. Cam was good at everything but man (until he went off the deep end mid season). Carlton Davis is good at what we want to do more often.

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Was Curious “excited” about Davis when he mentioned him?? Because that is Jman’s point

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Doubt it.
And just because he was mentioned once out of the other 150 guys doesn’t mean anything.

It’s just random dart throws at possibilities.

Doesn’t mean anyone was ever really truly excited about this combo we’ve got.

Except Brad…and he is the smartest guy in the room so we will trust him.

BUT it’s time to draft some young talent at CB

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I opened the link expecting to hear from a teammate who played with him.

I’m was less concerned with a former player who retired 24 years ago. At that point he’s basically a fan. A fan who strangely enjoys fitting the name ‘Carlton Davis’ in his sentence an unnecessary amount of times

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